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      05-04-2024, 06:16 PM   #89
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Here is what worked for us. Create a custom build, save the build Id (do not make any changes whatsoever or the build Id would change). Send messages to all dealers in your area via BMW website and give them the build id and ask ask for x% upfront (e.g. say you are looking for 7% off). Mention if you have a trade, new graduate, military, your zip code, etc. Most offers would be at MSRP. At least one would say you are out if your mind. One may agree to deal.

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Here is what worked for us. Create a custom build, save the build Id (do not make any changes whatsoever or the build Id would change). Send messages to all dealers in your area via BMW website and give them the build id and ask ask for x% upfront (e.g. say you are looking for 7% off). Mention if you have a trade, new graduate, military, your zip code, etc. Most offers would be at MSRP. At least one would say you are out if your mind. One may agree to deal.

Good luck.
That is good to hear since that is exactly what we have done

https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...crgvgz/summary is the build if someone wants to critique it

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      05-04-2024, 08:01 PM   #91
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That is good to hear since that is exactly what we have done

https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...crgvgz/summary is the build if someone wants to critique it
Looks like a good build. Probably want to add the spare, it is cheap insurance.
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      05-05-2024, 12:07 AM   #92
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I’m based out of Dallas. Appreciate the references and I haven’t worked at all with brokers in the past so that would be my first as well.

I’ve always haggled my own way out with dealers, but with the 7 yr hibernation I don’t trust to pull it off anymore.

Please do share them, ty!
I would go to Sewell in Grapevine if you want to haggle yourself.

I would look at IAC (Insight Auto Consulting) for a broker - Chris lives in Dallas.

DM me if you need contact for either the dealer or broker.
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Looks like a good build. Probably want to add the spare, it is cheap insurance.
For my education, since they are ordering runflats, why order the spare? Agree it’s cheap insurance but would it ever be used?

Is your suggestion more for later when someone replaces their run flats with regular and they have a cheap spare already?

Thank you for always educating the community 🙏🏼
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      05-05-2024, 08:22 AM   #94
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For my education, since they are ordering runflats, why order the spare? Agree it’s cheap insurance but would it ever be used?

Is your suggestion more for later when someone replaces their run flats with regular and they have a cheap spare already?

Thank you for always educating the community 🙏🏼
Here’s my take on your question…..a spare is peace of mind even if you have RFT. And even though we often say “I’ll never do that” we might want different wheels/tires in the future such as non RFT. The space saver spare is cheap insurance and is much more expensive aftermarket.
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I would go to Sewell in Grapevine if you want to haggle yourself.

I would look at IAC (Insight Auto Consulting) for a broker - Chris lives in Dallas.

DM me if you need contact for either the dealer or broker.
Considering I’m still new to the Forum I can’t DM unfortunately 😅

If you can that’ll be great and thanks a lot!
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For my education, since they are ordering runflats, why order the spare? Agree it’s cheap insurance but would it ever be used?

Is your suggestion more for later when someone replaces their run flats with regular and they have a cheap spare already?

Thank you for always educating the community 🙏🏼
Two reasons, besides replacing with go flats that I can think of. The most important one would be if you compromise the sidewall of the run flat then it can't be used. For example, if you have a blowout on the side of the from hitting the edge of a pothole you are stuck.

The second would be giving you some extra mileage to get to help. Like a space saver spare, you should not drive a flat run flat for more than 50 miles. When I do a road trip, I'm often not within 50 miles of a town that has services that could help me. With the space saver spare I double the mileage that I could go.

You're welcome and hopefully that makes sense. If not, just ask.
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Two reasons, besides replacing with go flats that I can think of. The most important one would be if you compromise the sidewall of the run flat then it can't be used. For example, if you have a blowout on the side of the from hitting the edge of a pothole you are stuck.

The second would be giving you some extra mileage to get to help. Like a space saver spare, you should not drive a flat run flat for more than 50 miles. When I do a road trip, I'm often not within 50 miles of a town that has services that could help me. With the space saver spare I double the mileage that I could go.

You're welcome and hopefully that makes sense. If not, just ask.
Makes sense! Quick question for you. My order went in supposedly yesterday. Do you think the dealer can add the space saver option if I call tomorrow? Or wil it cause issues?

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Makes sense! Quick question for you. My order went in supposedly yesterday. Do you think the dealer can add the space saver option if I call tomorrow? Or wil it cause issues?

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Should not be a problem at all. Orders can be changed up until you hit the Production Begins (150) status. The exception to that is for Individual options but even at this point you would be able to make a change as the last change date should be at least a few days away.
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      05-05-2024, 06:24 PM   #99
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Considering I’m still new to the Forum I can’t DM unfortunately 😅

If you can that’ll be great and thanks a lot!
Replied to your DM.
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      05-06-2024, 01:32 AM   #100
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Looks like a good build. Probably want to add the spare, it is cheap insurance.
Thanks. On the spare I was thinking that with the run flat tires probably have enough to get to a tire place. Is that not the case in the real world? I had a long term X5 rental which had a flat and i was safely able to goto the airport to pick my parents up in a pinch.

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You can ignore for some reason i missed the message exchange above covering this.

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For my education, since they are ordering runflats, why order the spare? Agree it’s cheap insurance but would it ever be used?
Is your suggestion more for later when someone replaces their run flats with regular and they have a cheap spare already?
Thank you for always educating the community 🙏🏼
Depending on how big a punch is and its location. I had RF and got a punch that lost air so fast. It went from 41 to 9 in matter of minute. In that case I wouldn't feel comfortable riding on my 21". Luckily there was a shop nearby. A spare is definitely worth it IMO.
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      05-07-2024, 05:53 AM   #102
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The other decision I'm struggling with is the wheels. Should I go with the safe route (20") or the better look but more expensive replacement tire cost (22"). Squared or Staggered?
I recommend you look up available tires on a site like tire rack if you are considering upgrading above the standard 20s. I was intailly attracted to the 21 or 22s given they are staggered and the size looked better. However, I found that it was not worth it given my circumstances:

- All of the tire options for the 21/22 inch rims were summer tires except 1 tire option.
- Much of east coast requires all season tires or a second set of rims for winter tires if running summers.
- Many tires shops have very limited stock on 21 or 22 inch tire options. Important if you need a replacement tire,
- Given the limited supply of the larger tires, the price per set was almost double.

In my case, I decided to stay with 20s.
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Just hit Status 150, new member here, X5 40i build. Like an idiot did not check the spare tire box thinking the floor would be raised. Easy 7%+$4K Military discount.
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      05-07-2024, 12:18 PM   #104
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I recommend you look up available tires on a site like tire rack if you are considering upgrading above the standard 20s. I was intailly attracted to the 21 or 22s given they are staggered and the size looked better. However, I found that it was not worth it given my circumstances:

- All of the tire options for the 21/22 inch rims were summer tires except 1 tire option.
- Much of east coast requires all season tires or a second set of rims for winter tires if running summers.
- Many tires shops have very limited stock on 21 or 22 inch tire options. Important if you need a replacement tire,
- Given the limited supply of the larger tires, the price per set was almost double.

In my case, I decided to stay with 20s.
I ended up going with the black 22" because my wife liked them better than the silver 20's. I'm in the southern part of NC, so we have mild winters and rarely any snow. I will however start hunting for a second set of 20" wheels with all season tires to have on hand.
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I ended up going with the black 22" because my wife liked them better than the silver 20's. I'm in the southern part of NC, so we have mild winters and rarely any snow. I will however start hunting for a second set of 20" wheels with all season tires to have on hand.
Wouldn't it have been easier to powdercoat the 20s?
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