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      05-13-2024, 04:53 AM   #1
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Auto Hold

Is there a way to Turn ON/OFF Auto Hold for each driver profile?

I keep AUTO H ON all the time.

Other drivers keep switching it OFF, and it's fking annoying.

Is there any option to keep it ON per profile?
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      05-13-2024, 05:42 AM   #2
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Is there a way to Turn ON/OFF Auto Hold for each driver profile?

I keep AUTO H ON all the time.

Other drivers keep switching it OFF, and it's fking annoying.

Is there any option to keep it ON per profile?
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      05-13-2024, 01:08 PM   #3
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just switch it off... Anyway, what's your use case for A/H? Personally, I find it totally useless in connection with an automatic gearbox. It's another matter in a manual, when you do the dreaded up-hill starts or reversing...
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I personally rarely use it because I stop several times when reverse-parking in my garage. Auto Hold engages the brake during this maneuver, and I don’t like using the accelerator to overcome the hold in such a tight space

I’ll use it maybe if I’m annoyed in stop and go traffic that doesn’t meet the Extended Traffic Jam feature

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Never found any use for it in my day-to-day driving situations prior to COVID...it did come in handy in the mandatory and cursory drive thru/drive-up situations that took long periods of idling to get many essential services. I also combined it with ASS...which is another feature I have turned off 99.9% of the time.

I'm so glad that's over!
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      05-13-2024, 03:51 PM   #6
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For over a decade, I’ve used auto hold. It’s nice not having to hold the brakes while stopped. It also keeps the thing from creeping forward, or sliding backwards if the slope is steep. If you have a very light touch, it’s not hard to keep it on when trying to carefully position the thing in the garage…I’ve been using it for that whole time without incident. I have a bump stop I use to help ensure it gets stopped at the same point into the garage each time, and it takes being slow and careful to get that.

Now, on one of my vehicles, the auto hold was a bit grabby, but I was able to get that adjusted by the dealer under warranty.

As far as I have found, while some stuff is tied to a profile, I’m not sure auto hold is.

When someone else drives the vehicle, are they using their own key fob or profile, or are you sharing keys?
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just switch it off... Anyway, what's your use case for A/H? Personally, I find it totally useless in connection with an automatic gearbox. It's another matter in a manual, when you do the dreaded up-hill starts or reversing...
I, on the other hand, use auto hold all the time. Auto hold does not apply the brakes until the vehicle comes to a full stop, so it shouldn't interfere with crawl feature (in fact I crawl frequently with auto hold enabled). I find it very convenient at traffic lights and stops to not have to keep pressing the brakes.


I think ultimately it boils down to what one gets habituated to or is comfortable using - no right or wrong answer here
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      05-13-2024, 05:35 PM   #8
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I, on the other hand, use auto hold all the time. Auto hold does not apply the brakes until the vehicle comes to a full stop, so it shouldn't interfere with crawl feature (in fact I crawl frequently with auto hold enabled). I find it very convenient at traffic lights and stops to not have to keep pressing the brakes.


I think ultimately it boils down to what one gets habituated to or is comfortable using - no right or wrong answer here
Same here... I keep it on by default. I've been using it for so many years, I can't imagine waiting at a stop light with my foot planted on the brake. I have a Lexus with Auto Hold and it resets to off every time you turn off the car and sometimes it catches me by surprise.
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      05-13-2024, 05:49 PM   #9
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I only find it useful in manual transmission vehicles.
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      05-13-2024, 09:14 PM   #10
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I had an excruciatingly painful injury to my right foot last month. Loved the Auto-Hold feature, because holding the brake pedal at long lights was really painful. Also made quite liberal use of the cruise control and traffic jam assist. Helped me get through a really rough week. Borrowed it from my wife because it was the easiest for me to drive vs. our other cars.

I'm not sure why you can't disable Auto-Hold while your foot is already on the brake, though. You MUST tap the accelerator to get it going, and then you can disable the Auto-Hold, which is really annoying if its happen to set in slow speed parking maneuvers. As I recall, in our E70 you could disable it whenever you wanted to.
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      05-13-2024, 09:39 PM   #11
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I had an excruciatingly painful injury to my right foot last month. Loved the Auto-Hold feature, because holding the brake pedal at long lights was really painful. Also made quite liberal use of the cruise control and traffic jam assist. Helped me get through a really rough week. Borrowed it from my wife because it was the easiest for me to drive vs. our other cars.

I'm not sure why you can't disable Auto-Hold while your foot is already on the brake, though. You MUST tap the accelerator to get it going, and then you can disable the Auto-Hold, which is really annoying if its happen to set in slow speed parking maneuvers. As I recall, in our E70 you could disable it whenever you wanted to.
I don't have to be moving to disable Auto-Hold. Come to a complete stop, foot still on brake, press the Auto-Hold and it turns off.
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      05-13-2024, 10:12 PM   #12
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Good discussion.

I've been using AH since I got first X5 back in 2013. Got used to this feature. Light, medium, freeway, city traffic, doesn't matter. I can't stop/go with foot on the brake. The moment I stop, I lift off my foot and just relax even for 1 sec

I guess I have to put a sticker on it. DON'T SWITCH IT OFF.....lol

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      05-16-2024, 08:18 AM   #13
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I only find it useful in manual transmission vehicles.
I haven't driven a manual in over 20+ years - don't you have to depress the clutch when stopped nowadays?
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      05-16-2024, 08:42 AM   #14
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I haven't driven a manual in over 20+ years - don't you have to depress the clutch when stopped nowadays?
Yes you do, but I believe the auto hold uses the brakes to keep the car from rolling when the clutch is used and the car is on a hill.
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Yes you do, but I believe the auto hold uses the brakes to keep the car from rolling when the clutch is used and the car is on a hill.
Exactly. It's especially helpful in turbocharged vehicles or other small displacement vehicle that don't have much torque off idle. The brakes auto hold it in place while you work the clutch and ga sto get moving. Without it you have to roll back a little, or use the handbrake.

Most of my manuals have been Corvettes with large V8s, and it wasn't a huge deal because a little bit of clutch release would hold them still. But I had a Subaru STI that was only a 2.5L, so it had no torque off idle. Luckily it had the auto hold feature and that was SUPER helpful.
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Ah, that makes sense but the feet (at least one foot) are still used (to hold the clutch) - with auto transmission, once can take both feet off (completely) until the accelerator is depressed to move forward - I have got used to this aspect.


Back in my days of manual there was no auto hold so it had to be either slight relief of clutch or brake (and/or handbrake) and one had to time release of both in conjunction when on steep incline.
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Ah, that makes sense but the feet (at least one foot) are still used (to hold the clutch) - with auto transmission, once can take both feet off (completely) until the accelerator is depressed to move forward - I have got used to this aspect.


Back in my days of manual there was no auto hold so it had to be either slight relief of clutch or brake (and/or handbrake) and one had to time release of both in conjunction when on steep incline.
Yeah, that's how you do it if the car doesn't have auto hold. Super convenient to have it for that one situation.

It's pointless in an automatic IMO.
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Yeah, that's how you do it if the car doesn't have auto hold. Super convenient to have it for that one situation.

It's pointless in an automatic IMO.
i don’t use it, but the fact that Auto Hold is in millions of automatic vehicles across many manufacturers would say otherwise…
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i don’t use it, but the fact that Auto Hold is in millions of automatic vehicles across many manufacturers would say otherwise…
It's just cheap and easy to do, and it's a gizmo that could.impress someone.
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i don’t use it, but the fact that Auto Hold is in millions of automatic vehicles across many manufacturers would say otherwise…
It's just cheap and easy to do, and it's a gizmo that could.impress someone.
I’m just saying just because one, a few, or several hundred don’t use it doesn’t make it a pointless feature
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Yes you do, but I believe the auto hold uses the brakes to keep the car from rolling when the clutch is used and the car is on a hill.
Yep, that’s where the auto hold can be a great help (in up/downhill scenarios)
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It's just cheap and easy to do, and it's a gizmo that could.impress someone.
I would disagree with your earlier statement of this being a pointless feature - I use it all the time with automatic transmission. Could I live without it? Sure - would l like to live without it? No

One could make the same argument for manual vs auto transmission.
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