[JeffL0]

Welp, let the games begin.

The Good News: I just got a text from my CA telling me my production date ETA is end of next month (slightly sooner than anticipated).

The Bad News: When I looked at the production details, it listed "Full LED lights". I asked about this, saying I was under the impression the 50e includes BMW Laserlight as standard. His reply: "So my genius is telling me there is no more laser lights on 2025 orders. They are no longer doing them on builds even with the M versions."

Sigh. I hope this isn't the start of more surprise "Oh, by the way" notes.

[arRod1981]

Originally Posted by JeffL0

Welp, let the games begin.

The Good News: I just got a text from my CA telling me my production date ETA is end of next month (slightly sooner than anticipated).

The Bad News: When I looked at the production details, it listed "Full LED lights". I asked about this, saying I was under the impression the 50e includes BMW Laserlight as standard. His reply: "So my genius is telling me there is no more laser lights on 2025 orders. They are no longer doing them on builds even with the M versions."

Sigh. I hope this isn't the start of more surprise "Oh, by the way" notes.

This was well known when the start of the G05 LCI began last year.

[JeffL0]

yea, Googling confirms that. My fault for not being aware of this, but I had seen "BMW Laserlight" referenced as being standard equipment on the 50e. Things I'm reading now suggest the adaptive LEDs promise to be an improvement over the Laselight LEDs, so there's that.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by JeffL0

yea, Googling confirms that. My fault for not being aware of this, but I had seen "BMW Laserlight" referenced as being standard equipment on the 50e. Things I'm reading now suggest the adaptive LEDs promise to be an improvement over the Laselight LEDs, so there's that.

Not sure where you got the info on the laser lights but there is a lot of bad info out there. You should ignore water you are reading, the adaptive LEDs are not close to the Laserlights in performance overall. They do illuminate a bit further in some instances when the lasers aren't engaged. You lose the adaptive function (turning with steering wheel) which is a big downside. They do seem to be more than adequate as we have not seen many complaints.

[JeffL0]

The lights in my LS460 turned with the steering wheel and I loved that. You're saying the laserlights did that and the adaptive LEDs don't? Even more of a bummer.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by JeffL0

The lights in my LS460 turned with the steering wheel and I loved that. You're saying the laserlights did that and the adaptive LEDs don't? Even more of a bummer.

That is correct. The "adaptive" part of the LEDs are that they move up and down, they do not turn with the steering wheel.

[BMPHIL]

The adaptive LED lights aren't as good as the laser lights in my opinion.

[jad03060]

The bad news for the USA is that DOT chose their own route for the anti-dazzle logic that BMW has enabled in most of the rest of the world. That functionality had the high beams on most all of the time, but adjusted the beam pattern to avoid blinding others on the road. Two aspects of the US mandate for them that increased the difficulty in implementing them legally here were the response time when coming around a corner or on a hill, and the overall brightness.

While some have programmed their laser lights to the Euro spec, technically, it’s illegal…a really anal inspection might catch it, but probably not, but it is better. That technology does not require the laser lights, but could work with certain LEF configurations as well. Given the locking down of the code on the LCI, i don’t know if the coding changes could still be made.

[aaaaaaaaaz]

Laser has been dropped by BMW group from all new models and LCIs after 2022 I believe.

[letsgopony]

Does the adaptive LED lights come with the cool blue stuff inside?

[matowi]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

The adaptive LED lights aren't as good as the laser lights in my opinion.

I can second that. Sadly, the lights are a clear step back as compared to lasers I had on my previous car (MY21 G11). I think this is the only thing I really miss and consider to be a major flaw of the G05 - at least in its LCI form. Luckily, where I live, the anti-dazzle option works, and works well, so this helps things a bit
However, my sense is that the light beam is less bright, and reaches a shorter distance than the lights I had on the 7 series. I’m referring to normal driving conditions, when the high beam isn’t engaged. That is the greatest weakness. I don’t miss the turning functionality - the lights on the G05 spread wide enough to the sides

[matowi]

Originally Posted by letsgopony

Does the adaptive LED lights come with the cool blue stuff inside?

Not really. There’s a tiny bit of blue plastic on the side of the light housing

[JeffL0]

Well that's something. On the summary page for my build, it clearly shows the blue elements running through the entire lamp assembly:



Sounds like a "truth in advertising" thing.

[jad03060]

You’ll see it in you read the fine print. Something like ‘we reserve the right to make changes…’.

[Ruyseart]

Originally Posted by matowi

I can second that. Sadly, the lights are a clear step back as compared to lasers I had on my previous car (MY21 G11). I think this is the only thing I really miss and consider to be a major flaw of the G05 - at least in its LCI form. Luckily, where I live, the anti-dazzle option works, and works well, so this helps things a bit
However, my sense is that the light beam is less bright, and reaches a shorter distance than the lights I had on the 7 series. I’m referring to normal driving conditions, when the high beam isn’t engaged. That is the greatest weakness. I don’t miss the turning functionality - the lights on the G05 spread wide enough to the sides

What? What you saying is 50e LCI does not have turning adaptive headlights? Which I've been having in every car (some of them way cheaper) I had since I dont remember when?

[JeffL0]

yep, get out of jail free card in every contract

[eMeF]

Originally Posted by JeffL0

Well that's something. On the summary page for my build, it clearly shows the blue elements running through the entire lamp assembly:

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Sounds like a "truth in advertising" thing.

M Shadowline Lights has the blue piece partially blacked out. W/o M Shadowline the lights looks like this…

[JeffL0]

Originally Posted by eMeF

M Shadowline Lights has the blue piece partially blacked out. W/o M Shadowline the lights looks like this…

thanks!

[matowi]

Interesting... So I have the shadow line version... good to know. I hope, the darkening doesn't affect the actual bulbs, making them less bright

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Ruyseart

What? What you saying is 50e LCI does not have turning adaptive headlights? Which I've been having in every car (some of them way cheaper) I had since I dont remember when?

That is correct, it was dropped for the LCI.

[BMPHIL]

Originally Posted by aaaaaaaaaz

Laser has been dropped by BMW group from all new models and LCIs after 2022 I believe.

My M50i was built in 2023 and had Laser lights.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

My M50i was built in 2023 and had Laser lights.

Yours was a pre-LCI though.