04-28-2024, 06:55 PM | #23 |
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Cost me ~$850 on our 2019 to change the fluid.
Car has 40k miles on it and the transfer case was shuddering pretty bad when doing slow speed turns. Dealer recommended fluid change and if that didn't fix it would need a new transfer case. Contacted BMW NA about a goodwill case since it only has 40k. They said nope since it was out of warranty. Claimed they were surprised but haven't heard of early tcase failures on the X5 . So if it fails that's going to cost me 6k+ out of pocket. This is on top of the other issues we've had with the car and it's easily the worst BMW I've ever owned (I've owned double digits of them, with 3 new in the past 5 years). I was shopping for a new X5M when this happened as well, but BMW NA's response with this issue and other issues with this car left a sour taste in my mouth. Probably the last BMW I will ever buy. I used to work for them as a tech as well.. they're not what / who they used to be as a company. Far, far from it. |
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I think on pre-LCI the maintenance is to replace the entire case.
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Back in the day you’d service this stuff every 3 years/30k miles or so. I’m sure fluids are getting better but lifetime fluid seems extreme. For example, BMW says the transmission fluid is lifetime, however ZF (the transmission manufacturer) suggest the fluid change every 50k miles. So my technique is going to be doing the trans/transfer case/differentials every 50k. Not sure how high the car was lifted, I use a Quickjack at home. https://www.quickjack.com/ |
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04-29-2024, 09:21 AM | #30 |
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That is not correct, ZF recommends changing it at about 93k miles.
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"ZF automatic transmissions are generally filled with lifetime oil. However, due to the many fac- tors influencing the service life of transmissions in individual operation, ZF recommends an oil change after 150,000 km for its transmissions." https://aftermarket.zf.com/remotemed...fluid-8-it.pdf
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If you read the literature posted above, it specifically states that the trans fluid is designed to maximize fuel economy - so I think you’re right about prioritizing the green effort over the health of the trans. And lifetime definitely is specified between the manufacturer and BMW - of course they don’t share that definition with the customer haha but I’m with you it ain’t what it sounds like. |
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Yes, I was a BMW Tech. I didn't change it myself as I wanted it on record that BMW did the oil change incase a recall ever arises, or BMW NA gets their shit together.
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From what I've read on these forums, it can take 100+ miles before you will know if the oil change did the trick. I recall reading one post where the owner said he changed it, drove a few hundred and changed it again and it worked. I supposed like changing tranny oil, it does take a while to get it "all" changed.
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BMW Dealer or an Indy?
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Is the G05 xdrive different than prior models? Is there anything unique to G05 xdrive causing transfer case issues? I own an E70 xdrive w/ no transfer case issues and currently shopping for a G05 and debating if sdrive is the better route to take.
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Welcome to the forum. I don't think there is any difference causing the issue. What seems to be causing the issue on some vehicles as that the wrong oil was used at the factory in some cases for the first two years or so of productions.
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