[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I may be missing something.

This is better read.
https://tesla-info.com/blog/inventory-stats-regional/US

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Really that's what you get from this video?
Great idea, Rent a EV before you buy. The road noise is insane, (EV Tires)? A trip to the gas station is looking pretty good to me.

The Model S Plaid is getting around 61-70 db at 75 mph.

https://teslanorth.com/2021/07/25/te...l-meter-video/

At 70 mph it was running 65-68 db.

Readings per C&D for my M5 latest gen at 70 mph were 66-74 (latter is at WOT).

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...5-test-review/

Those seems fairly comparable.

The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S T2 tires have a foam liner in them. I never am bothered with tire drone.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

This is better read.
https://tesla-info.com/blog/inventory-stats-regional/US

Great link. Looking at monthly sales of the various vehicles standing inventory looks pretty good.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

The Model S Plaid is getting around 61-70 db at 75 mph.

I still thinks the road noise is insane on the video. When I had my X3 the road noise sucked too and it was related to the stupid truck tires they used back then. Hated that SUV.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I still thinks the road noise is insane on the video. When I had my X3 the road noise sucked too and it was related to the stupid truck tires they used back then. Hated that SUV.

I have enjoyed the overall quietness of my specific Tesla. I have no experience in any other makes or models of EVs.

[gonzo]

More encouraging news from the green church overlords. Because, you know, everything they try and do is such a colossal success!

“California takes great pride in our ambitious status as the leading edge of high-speed rail in America,” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Tuesday on X, previously Twitter. “With $3 billion in new federal funding, we take an important leap closer to making high-speed rail a reality in California.”

Over a decade. A decade and not a foot of rail...

Imagine what a deep dive audit of that project would uncover.

California is forging the way forward for the future!
Just pay no attention to the 68B deficit.
Look...SQUIRREL

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by gonzo

More encouraging news from the green church overlords. Because, you know, everything they try and do is such a colossal success!

“California takes great pride in our ambitious status as the leading edge of high-speed rail in America,” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Tuesday on X, previously Twitter. “With $3 billion in new federal funding, we take an important leap closer to making high-speed rail a reality in California.”

Over a decade. A decade and not a foot of rail...

Imagine what a deep dive audit of that project would uncover.

California is forging the way forward for the future!
Just pay no attention to the 68B deficit.
Look...SQUIRREL

I wouldn’t call high speed rail a green church plan. Rail is reasonable and used all over the planet. This Cali project will be a fiasco because of so many unfavorable exigencies and will likely never come to fruition.

But I wouldn’t call rail something only enviro loonies want.

[gonzo]

^
Absolutely. Rail has been a European model of success for ions.
Thing is, both Nance and Gavski ARE green church leadership and that project has been touted as a pollution killer. Too bad they and their friends are depositing the billions. Mention Federal audit and they're in Brazil the next morning.

Mucho pro rail myself. Texas is stuck with a big project but it's more of a "we're not selling our ranches" problem along desired line location(s).

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by chriseran

I think there can be problems sometimes, but evs are a great option. Specially they are cost friendly.

Care to open up on that.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Care to open up on that.

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Really that's what you get from this video?
Great idea, Rent a EV before you buy. The road noise is insane, (EV Tires)? A trip to the gas station is looking pretty good to me.

Think you guys responded to a bot. Low post count, joined literally this month, and responding to the first post of over 240+ pages sound like a bot

[UPSROD]

Really SICK of seeing this tread!!!

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by UPSROD

Really SICK of seeing this tread!!!

You forgot the pic. Is this about a certain brand of tire?

[UPSROD]

Thread!

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by UPSROD

Thread!

You have a hem loose?

[ggunn9]

I don't understand why so many people that have no experience with an EV have such harsh options about EVs.

I sold my 2018 BMW x5 s35i for a 2023 Tesla Model Y Performance edition. I am not a tree hugger. I don't imagine I am saving the plant with my one EV. I changed because I got tired of buying premium gas, I got tired of doing all the maintenance, oil and spark plug changes. I loved that X5. It was a great vehicle and I had a Bootmod3 tune on it. That thing was fast.

My Tesla is even faster with no maintenance. I'm not here to argue or tell you that you need to get rid of your ICE vehicle. I get it EVs don't work for everyone, but thsi Model Y works for me. I have certain routine trips I take. I used to have to stop for gas $40-$60. Now I stop to charge $4-$6. I'm not saying I am saving a ton of money on my EV. I think the cost of the EV made up for the difference. $15k more than my X5. But perhaps I get that money and time back by not having to change the oil, spark plugs or trans fluid. IDK.

I just know I like my Tesla Model Y. Charging does not take as long as people talk about. I have never spent more than 15 mins charging on the road. The goal is to charge enough to get to the next charger not to 100%. I have grown to enjoy the 15 mins of relaxing in the car or getting a snack or using the bathroom on that stop. Once I stopped in Atlanta, GA to charge. I decided to kill the charge time with a meal. By the time I got inside the restaurant next door. The car was done charging. I had enough juice to make it home.

My EV works for me and that is all I care about. The instant power is there when I want it. I'm not sure how long I will keep it. On average I keep a car 6-8 yrs. I only kept the X5 2 yrs.

[M5Rick]

The latest airport car park fire at Bristol destroying around a dozen vehicles.
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/...hrough-8965915

[ggunn9]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

The latest airport car park fire ar Bristol destroying around a dozen vehicles.
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/...hrough-8965915

I didn't see where that article pointed to EVs as the cause.

Stats show that the rate of fires in ICE cars is higher than that of EVs. As you would expect. An ICE car is carrying around a bomb of fuel.

There is no doubt or arguing that if an EV catches fire it will burn for a very long time and consume lots of fire dept resources. But again EVs do not catch fire at the rate of ICE cars.

[freakystyly]

ICE vehicles typically don't spontaneously combust unless there is an active fluid leak and flashpoint causing spark caused by.... electrical. Yes, ICE vehicles do have batteries and electronics.

EV fires are usually caused by thermal run away... which is basically a feedback loop of heat.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ggunn9

I didn't see where that article pointed to EVs as the cause.

Stats show that the rate of fires in ICE cars is higher than that of EVs. As you would expect. An ICE car is carrying around a bomb of fuel.

There is no doubt or arguing that if an EV catches fire it will burn for a very long time and consume lots of fire dept resources. But again EVs do not catch fire at the rate of ICE cars.

It is still being investigated, and as experts pointed that the Luton fire could only have been started by a lithium-ion battery it must be suspected that it may be the cause here.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by ggunn9

I don't understand why so many people that have no experience with an EV have such harsh options about EVs.

I sold my 2018 BMW x5 s35i for a 2023 Tesla Model Y Performance edition. I am not a tree hugger. I don't imagine I am saving the plant with my one EV. I changed because I got tired of buying premium gas, I got tired of doing all the maintenance, oil and spark plug changes. I loved that X5. It was a great vehicle and I had a Bootmod3 tune on it. That thing was fast.

My Tesla is even faster with no maintenance. I'm not here to argue or tell you that you need to get rid of your ICE vehicle. I get it EVs don't work for everyone, but thsi Model Y works for me. I have certain routine trips I take. I used to have to stop for gas $40-$60. Now I stop to charge $4-$6. I'm not saying I am saving a ton of money on my EV. I think the cost of the EV made up for the difference. $15k more than my X5. But perhaps I get that money and time back by not having to change the oil, spark plugs or trans fluid. IDK.

I just know I like my Tesla Model Y. Charging does not take as long as people talk about. I have never spent more than 15 mins charging on the road. The goal is to charge enough to get to the next charger not to 100%. I have grown to enjoy the 15 mins of relaxing in the car or getting a snack or using the bathroom on that stop. Once I stopped in Atlanta, GA to charge. I decided to kill the charge time with a meal. By the time I got inside the restaurant next door. The car was done charging. I had enough juice to make it home.

My EV works for me and that is all I care about. The instant power is there when I want it. I'm not sure how long I will keep it. On average I keep a car 6-8 yrs. I only kept the X5 2 yrs.

Here we go again... EV enthusiasts coming in with glowing reviews, this thread is 240+ pages because it just comes back around and around and around. There is not some massive hate on EVs, its everything else around it. Frankly reading through the EV enthusiasts here makes me want an EV LESS.

No one is arguing about the legitimacy of EVs, they have their strengths, and like so many of EV enthusiasts have come in here to sing praises, all of you have acknowledge you are speaking from YOUR use case, notice the use of 'I' or 'My' in all your claims, which is fine, but know it comes from YOUR use case, no one else.

The thread's 240+ pages have been littered with more than sufficient use case scenarios where an EV does not work, require serious work-arounds, or just won't work for the foreseeable future.

Then there's world government more than happy to discuss banning ICE vehicles which is even more idiotic, considering the myriad of things these people in power could actually do to work and reverse climate change instead of putting all their eggs in the EV basket to the benefit of the upper crust of society. Let the free market make its own choice.

People also tend to forget, that 7 billion lives exists outside of their own little bubble, and that 'YOUR' use case is not applicable to a lot of people.

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by ggunn9

I didn't see where that article pointed to EVs as the cause.

Stats show that the rate of fires in ICE cars is higher than that of EVs. As you would expect. An ICE car is carrying around a bomb of fuel.

There is no doubt or arguing that if an EV catches fire it will burn for a very long time and consume lots of fire dept resources. But again EVs do not catch fire at the rate of ICE cars.

Originally Posted by freakystyly

ICE vehicles typically don't spontaneously combust unless there is an active fluid leak and flashpoint causing spark caused by.... electrical. Yes, ICE vehicles do have batteries and electronics.

EV fires are usually caused by thermal run away... which is basically a feedback loop of heat.

This video is pretty relevant to the discussion you two are having. Some background about the creator of the video. He's a captain at a fire service/department and also a mechanical engineer. The relevant point from the video pertaining to your discussion is that he says the fires he's seen or are aware of for EVs involve cars that are only a year or two old. The fires for ICE vehicles are typically much older. I think he said around 10 years old and are typically due to lack of proper maintenance.

And this is the video he did sparking the reaction video above from the comments with the below video:

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gonzo

“California takes great pride in our ambitious status as the leading edge of high-speed rail in America,” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Tuesday on X,

California shouldn't make it easier for people to leave CA. The CA exodus is in high gear already. When they do get around to building a fence it won't be to keep people out it will be to keep them in.