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I almost bought a Nicky Hayden watch a few years ago, but it just wasn't my thing. Now that he's gone, I wish I'd grabbed it.

http://www.montblanc.com/en-us/collection/watches/montblanc-timewalker-collection/116096-montblanc-timewalker-chronograph-automatic.html
ScottSinger wroteThe "wait list" is much shorter for good clients vs. someone that just walks in off the street.Is there a mark up on the Daytona ? and waiting list ? if you can get one for ~12K no- brainer.
That being said, there are VERY few watches to be had. I've purchased four new Rolex's from my AD over the years and they just aren't getting the number of watches they had in the past. Rolex has reduced the number of watches they're releasing (keeping demand high and the second hand market on fire).
BTW: A VERY good client at my AD has already gotten a white and black face ceramic Daytona (yes, two of them).
AD's cannot mark the watch up. They're only allowed to sell it for retail and no more. So a new ceramic Daytona retails for around $11,600 + tax in my area.
So, yes it's a no brainer if you can find one at retail, new from an AD. The problem is, finding one.
I can't even get one at this time. Same goes for the GMT (BLNR) and Hulk Sub. My AD said that foreign travellers were buying them in the US and taking them back to their country where import tariffs and taxes drive the cost up 30 - 40% for a new watch. It's instant money for them.
My AD has a standing order for me. If one is available, call me and I'll give you my CC number instantly. That's what it takes sometimes.
ScottSinger wroteIWC has started using in house movements in some of their watches now.Double check but the ETA movements are used using IWC’s own specs and finishing. I believe IWC goes to ETA, where as 20 years ago or so IWC received the ebauches from ETA and worked on them themselves.
But yes, IWC uses both in house modified ETAs, ETAs straight from ETA with IWC spec'd finishing, as well as now some in house movements.
Omega used to do the same with their standard date/no date models (1109/1120 movements), Tudor used to do it, tag does it, a lot of companies out there do it.
That being said, I have 2 IWC with the eta movements, and a few omegas with the eta movements lol. Really solid watches.
OP, a daytona is gonna set you back a pretty penny right now. Really, any rolex right now is heavily inflated due to their artificial shortage.
Ball makes some good looking watches with the BMW logo on them, but are somewhat pricey for what they are.
personally, id go for an omega speedy or IWC Portuguese chrono. As these are my most worn and probably my favorites ouside of sport model rolex. The speedy is a more sporty looking watch, while the IWC is a more dressy watch.
Ive got the panda version and its my best looking watch. (googled image below)
Rolex Daytona (will probably have to go secondary market or pay a huge markup currently thought)
Zenith El Primero
Chopard Mille Miglia
Well, otherwise, I've attached a photo of my Speedy!
TokyoCarGuy wroteLooks just like my Tissot T-RaceReally digging new generation of Montblanc watches. Budget friendly as well
http://www.montblanc.com/en-us/collection/watches/montblanc-timewalker-collection/116096-montblanc-timewalker-chronograph-automatic.html
AllRoadPerformance wroteYep the new 44.25mm Speedmaster racing would do it, the speedy was timing races long before the astronauts took them to space.An Omega Speedmaster variant.
Seems to me if you are to spend 11k, everyone should know your watch is boss, not just old men at the country club who take the time to put on their glasses and read the branding.
Uboat wins
Pinscher wroteThe Uboat watch has nothing to do with a racing/driving/car theme.
Uboat wins
Besides, its a ridiculous watch, paying over 5k for a watch with a cheap tiny ETA 2824 movement.
From the inside it looks ridiculous:

From all the watches posted in this topic, the Uboat stands lowest on the horological ladder imho.
https://www.google.com/search?q=tag+heuer+formula+1&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4i4bbu4rbAhUMwlkKHeCyD3kQ_AUIEigC&biw=320&bih=454#imgrc=ABPQ4tiGlDedQM:
GuidoK wroteIt's not as if people actually use their watch to tell time, it's simply a statement. Cheap movement? it's swiss...I'm not watch hero, but i understand a swiss movement is what you want in a watch.The Uboat watch has nothing to do with a racing/driving/car theme.
Besides, its a ridiculous watch, paying over 5k for a watch with a cheap tiny ETA 2824 movement.
From the inside it looks ridiculous:
From all the watches posted in this topic, the Uboat stands lowest on the horological ladder imho.
Uboat says, Bam, that's a sick watch.
BMW Says, Bam, that's a sick car.
That's two bold statements
Watches that only honor the horological ladder say.....tick, tick...Uboat also makes chronographs, and their buttons a big enough fat fingers could hit them without a tooth pick....
Pinscher wroteNo.It's not as if people actually use their watch to tell time, it's simply a statement. Cheap movement? it's swiss...I'm not watch hero, but i understand a swiss movement is what you want in a watch.
Uboat says, Bam, that's a sick watch.
BMW Says, Bam, that's a sick car.
That's two bold statements
Watches that only honor the horological ladder say.....tick, tick...Uboat also makes chronographs, and their buttons a big enough fat fingers could hit them without a tooth pick....
Here's something that I think goes well with a BMW...

HKEd homage of a Heuer Bundeswehr which I've been daily driving quite a bit since adding it to my collection. Okay, sure...it's a pilot watch, not a racer, but it's at least German in origin. Super comfy on Kevlar strap and easy to pick up and go since it's hand-wound and no-date.
BMW's are not understated cars, so why are you'll saying understated watches go well with a BMW? I'm thinking we are dealing with a generational gap here...
When I think about German engineering I think of a quality build product that is HUGE. They made Big submarines, Giant tanks, Cannons, Trains and also mining equipment for today's world. It's a country that is't afraid to go big and they did it successfully.
so, tell me again how understated watches that have almost no character reflect BMW's awesome or anything that is German engineering.
Pinscher wroteIf you really want a watch that reflects modern-day German engineering, you need to be looking at Sinn, or Damasko, or Nomos, or Mühle Glashütte, or Archimede, or Tourby...not U-Boat.I've gotten more comments on my Uboat than any other watch. I've never seen someone walk up to a guy and say, "wow nice generic looking granpa watch."
BMW's are not understated cars, so why are you'll saying understated watches go well with a BMW? I'm thinking we are dealing with a generational gap here...
When I think about German engineering I think of a quality build product that is HUGE. They made Big submarines, Giant tanks, Cannons, Trains and also mining equipment for today's world. It's a country that is't afraid to go big and they did it successfully.
so, tell me again how understated watches that have almost no character reflect BMW's awesome or anything that is German engineering.
The Germans are known worldwide for functional, understated design. Flashy and overstated would be the Italians (you know, the nation where U-Boat is made). All of the "big" things you listed that Germany made, date back to WWII, so yes, maybe we are dealing with a generation gap here, and you just remember the days of "big" German machines. When I want to get flashy and "big" with a watch, I do reach for an Italian, but mine is a Panerai, not a U-Boat.
I'd also disagree with you that BMW isn't basically one of the most understated luxury marques in existence. Perhaps Audi is even more understated, but I don't really think any of the German cars (maybe Porsche) screams "look at me!" If that's what someone is looking for in a car, again they should probably be looking at something Italian.
termigni wroteYou run with that watch and that band ?What else other than the M racing stripes on your watch straps?
ScottSinger wroteNo I just received this strap. Prob switch back to Nike band for runningtermigni wroteYou run with that watch and that band ?What else other than the M racing stripes on your watch straps?