GORDON.M3 wroteCOULDNT AGREE MORE! It frustrates me to see these said cars, let alone their owners who think they actually own a M car. I owned a 2017 x5m and my neighbors brother showed up one day bragging about his X5M. His X5 was actually just an M sport. He argued with me on and on. Little did he know I actually owned a real x5m and it was sitting in the garage next door. He was humbled very quickly!Personally, I think BMW has ruined the ///M branding by adding these cars that aren't true ///M cars, like the M340i, M235i, etc...
amrazM wrotelol what the E34 was never homologated for anything, and it's a nightmare unless you're truly dedicated to the car these days. PArts availability, plastic and rubber...90's euro car wiring...yeesh M-stripe colored glasses. Any car will last when it's well cared for, the only ones left are owned by people who give a crap.nothing has really been an true motorsport car since the E34 which was built by the M division and most of them still run with 300k miles.
dont let the m cladding get to you its not that serious.
GORDON.M3 wroteThis hits the nail on the head for me. I cant even walk through a BMW showroom any more without getting frustrated. I asked a salesman about a year ago if the M235 on the showroom floor was an M car. He said yes, I walked away. BMW seems to be putting an M badge on everything. Used to be that you could pay extra for something special, not any more. This, combined with that disgusting front end on the G8X, will mean that I will likely never buy another new BMW. Glad that I have one of the last truly special M3's - it better last forever.Personally, I think BMW has ruined the ///M branding by adding these cars that aren't true ///M cars, like the M340i, M235i, etc...
Winter.M3 wroteThis has been the case in Europe since before dinosaurs were extinct. The world is full of shit spec 320ds that somehow managed to get the 'M Pack' and have M badges all over from the factory.Kinda controversial but I couldn't find anyone else's input. I see 3 series with the M sport package with M badges, M stickered calipers, M color stripes, etc. In my opinion, it's excessive.
Now, would you consider this upbadging? I would say yes, but I'm not sure. What's your opinion?
However; I still think it's cool to an extent to do it to some BMWs, especially if you have some performance mods. So don't get me wrong there.
MPizza wrote+1. As an M3 and a ZHP owner, I've never heard anyone who thought their ZHP was an M car. And I've never seen it mentioned over on ZHPMafia. Still a fun car to own though. But it's not an M3M-Sport already has M logos that are acceptable (door sills, steering wheel, rims). Anything else added by the owner is unacceptable.
SYT_Shadow wrotelol once had this same parking lot conversation with a guy who got a Ford Taurus instead, after he had previously asked me about the E90 and whether he should get one. It has about 300hp so it's pretty quick. Yeah man awesome!This has been the case in Europe since before dinosaurs were extinct. The world is full of shit spec 320ds that somehow managed to get the 'M Pack' and have M badges all over from the factory.
I could literally care less. I think it makes a lot of sense to have baby M and full M cars concurrently. It's obvious which ones are real Ms and which ones are not for everyone with a brain, so I take no offense.
Just like Porsche owners have to deal with some shithead saying 'I have a Porsche Turbo' when they have a base 911, that indeed is now turbocharged, we have to content with idiots who have 328s with 'M Packs' and say they have an M.
Real story, at physical therapist
Mensa member: hey is that your blue M3?
Me: yes
Mensa member: ah that's cool. I wanted one but my wife wouldn't let me get it, so I got a 328 convertible M
Me: that's awesome
Audi has the 'S' models for their equivalents to the baby M, I think it's just fine.
GORDON.M3 wroteThey have really blurred the lines between the M Sport and true M cars. More than that, BMW has watered down their entire line up with like 20 different vehicle Series between Suv, Roadsters, Sedans, etc with 90 different vehicles within those Series.Personally, I think BMW has ruined the ///M branding by adding these cars that aren't true ///M cars, like the M340i, M235i, etc...
drwankel wroteCorrect you are....still a poser.Not upbadging if it came that way from the factory...
