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So you "

". AFAIK, those "beauties" (among their kind - well, yes, but that's not enough) aren't even allowed on (some?) race tracks. "Competition". You claim you drove different cars but failed to appreciate them. That's sad. "

" And now we drive cars while you drive an utility vehicle.

No one wrote

So you "

". AFAIK, those "beauties" (among their kind - well, yes, but that's not enough) aren't even allowed on (some?) race tracks. "Competition". You claim you drove different cars but failed to appreciate them. That's sad. "

" And now we drive cars while you drive an utility vehicle.

smokinjoe64 wrote

@[no one](contact: 32763346)
Cleverly, really sums up some those 'porky/heavy weight', and other regular

> "Admission" - 1st step in the wanna-be BMW ///M recovery program
> "Believe" in a Higher Power - - Authentic BMW ///M

After that, you'll be fine as wine

m630 wrote

Anhh noo. G80s on race tracks, thats funny!!!’
My X4MC is just the daily drive, I drive a real street legal race car for fun

m630 wrote

I drive a real street legal race car for fun

m630 wrote

Anhh noo. G80s on race tracks, thats funny!!!’
My X4MC is just the daily drive, I drive a real street legal race car for fun

smokinjoe64 wrote

Factually stated, BMW M cars are full, motorsport-derived machines, while M Performance models are upgraded versions of regular BMWs.

Aside from 'stickers', badges, VINs, and marketing jargon et all - -
BMW ///M cars are built by BMW’s dedicated M division as true performance cars, developed with track capability as a priority.
M Performance models are essentially sportier trims of standard BMWs, meant for daily driving with extra punch.

> ///M car = street-legal race car
> M Performance = fast daily driver

Let's highlight just a few unmistakeable differences for understanding:

Engine and Power

///M cars:

• Unique engines developed specifically engineered by BMW M
• Higher rev limits, more aggressive tuning
• Bespoke engine designations =>ie S65

M Performance:

• Modified versions of regular BMW engines
• Still powerful, not as extreme

Chassis and Handling

///M cars:

• Heavily redesigned suspension, wider track, reinforced chassis
• Advanced differentials (like active M differentials)
• Designed for track precision and aggressive driving

M Performance:

• Improved suspension and brakes vs base models
• Fundamentally same platform as regular series car
• More comfort-oriented

Transmission & Drivetrain

///M cars:

• Special transmissions (e.g., M-specific automatics or manuals)
• RWD-focused or performance-tuned AWD

M Performance:

• Standard BMW transmissions
• xDrive is common and less aggressive

Design & Features

///M cars:

• Wider bodies, aggressive aerodynamics, quad exhausts
• Unique interiors with M-badged displays and controls

M Performance:

• Sportier styling (M badges, wheels, trim)
• Less unique visually and functionally

Price & Positioning

> ///M cars: Top-tier, significantly more expensive
> M Performance: Mid-tier, positioned between base models and full ///M

So there you have it...
Perhaps it is time to close this debate, this thread...shall we?

philth wrote

You jest sir, that ain’t a Scuderia.

Also; what an asinine topic. Some idiot necromanced this thread and people went off again LOL.

m630 wrote

The Scuderia is the name of the Ferrari racing team, it means stable in italian which is why they choose it and thats what I wrote. I made no such claim that my car is a 430 Scuderia, though if you knew the performance differences its just exhaust headers, transmission software and a more dialed in suspension tuned for track use. Im perfectly happy with mine thank you.

Btw this is the Scuderia shield, the race team logo. SF = Scuderia Ferrari.

m630 wrote

The Scuderia is the name of the Ferrari racing team, it means stable in italian which is why they choose it and thats what I wrote. I made no such claim that my car is a 430 Scuderia, though if you knew the performance differences its just exhaust headers, transmission software and a more dialed in suspension tuned for track use. Im perfectly happy with mine thank you.

Btw this is the Scuderia shield, the race team logo. SF = Scuderia Ferrari.

philth wrote

Lotta mental gymnastics and word salad there just to talk about your base model 430.

Ferrari owners are a sensitive bunch, much like Ferrari themselves.

I was being facetious.

philth

> "Drive on Sunday, Shop on Monday"

GORDON.M3 wrote

Personally, I think BMW has ruined the ///M branding by adding these cars that aren't true ///M cars, like the M340i, M235i, etc...

decaf wrote

I've been facing a different kind of dilemma for the last couple of years. I absolutely do not consider my X1 XDRIVE28I with M SPORT pack to be an "M" car.(other than the cosmetic bits)

However, BMW's factory in Regensburg, Germany, "accidentally" put M fender badgers on my X1 due to the pandemic.... I've been pondering if I should take them off.

I asked in the "Fake Badges" thread..