0-60Motorsports wrote

Very nice. I would love a back Daytona but not paying a penny over for MSRP for one.

SaMaster18 wrote

That’s how I felt, but I don’t spend nearly enough and my AD basically said try in 20 years… my mindset might be shifting for the Daytona and only the Daytona. I honestly really like the watch. Wouldn’t be buying for hype or resale, I genuinely love the design and the aesthetic of a panda chronograph and Rolex, I think, executes it perfectly. I’m a big Omega fan as well, but the Moonwatch just never called to me.

In 2017/2018 or so I found a grey market panda Daytona priced at $17k (when MSRP was $12,500 I believe). I was in no position to buy it then (was in law school and was not going to ask my parents for something like that…)

I’m still somewhat kicking myself for not someone grabbing it!

Burnsey wrote

The 'love' is not strong enough and that is absolutely fair enough.

We buy cars, drive away and through 20k out of the window, so to get something you desire, what does MSRP matter?

I've used the grey market for two decades, when you could get models cheaper than MSRP and more recently a lot more than MSRP.

Picked up a Gen1 Pepsi a few months ago and could turn it for £3k profit currently, but I'm enjoying it.

But, it's an age old debate and everyone has their own opinion of it.

Correct I agree. I also have my educated assessment of over twenty years on how this whole thing works and that’s why I am against going grey. Even if its cheaper than MSRP I’d rather do a private one to one sale than go grey.

In the end I buy to keep use and abuse. No safe or garage queens here.

DanG wrote

I went the obsolete way and got a white dial Moonwatch. Love it and I am wearing it right now.

I do also own a blue dial Yatchmaster.

0-60Motorsports wrote

Correct I agree. I also have my educated assessment of over twenty years on how this whole thing works and that’s why I am against going grey. Even if its cheaper than MSRP I’d rather do a private one to one sale than go grey.

In the end I buy to keep use and abuse. No safe or garage queens here.

Burnsey wrote

I buy to use, perhaps not abuse, but my watches are worn irrespective of any activity and have battle scars to prove it.

You said you 'loved' the Daytona, so why not buy one and wear one if it isn't the economics?

Grey is here to stay and to me is just another method of buying what I want, when I want it.

Yeah mine are too.

Nope not buying if not MSRP or under. Love it but not enough to go against my philosophy.

OHV_44 wrote

If I really want something and don't want to wait five years, I'll pay the market price. I've had quite a few, and now that I'm older, I only have a "pensioner's watch" so I always know what day it is.

0-60Motorsports wrote

Yeah mine are too.

Nope not buying if not MSRP or under. Love it but not enough to go against my philosophy.

Westside Guy wrote

I love how you included the Omega “Silver Snoopy Award” 50th Anniversary watch in your group!

OHV_44 wrote

Snoopy deserves it.

flybigjet wrote

So-- we're just under a month for Watches and Wonders 2026 (14-20 Apr) in Geneva.

What's the Collective's best bet on what will be new? Discontinued?

Curiosity abounds.

R.

SaMaster18 wrote

Rumors of coke incoming, Pepsi being discontinued or precious metal only. Also maybe a new Milgauss (I selfishly hope not) and new land dweller colors/models.

I’m interested as always!

SaMaster18 wrote

Rumors of coke incoming, Pepsi being discontinued or precious metal only. Also maybe a new Milgauss (I selfishly hope not) and new land dweller colors/models.

I’m interested as always!

Burnsey wrote

Daytona on jubilee

0-60Motorsports wrote

God Damn that would be sexy and IMPOSSIBLE to get LOL

Burnsey wrote

Only impossible at MSRP

0-60Motorsports wrote

Very nice. I would love a back Daytona but not paying a penny over for MSRP for one.

Toretto wrote

Fortunately, I have a very good relationship with my AD and maybe the next one will be a black SS Daytona. Are you on “the list” for a Daytona in your local AD?

Anyway I will tell you something: if it is your favourite watch, don’t discard paying over MSRP for it. What I would never do would be playing the “AD’s game”, buying tons of expensive jewellery that I don’t really want in order to obtain a Rolex/AP/Patek allocation at MSRP. It is way cheaper going directly to the gray market and, of course, much quicker. Thank to goodness that’s not my situation because my AD knows me and my family since many many years ago, but the vast majority of them require being a big spender to have a chance to get the call for a hot piece, which is something extremely frustrating.

Anyway, there are many magnificent non-Rolex timepieces that you can buy as a walk in if you love chronographs, such a Moonwatch, IWC Portofino Chronograph, Zenith El Primero or so