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      10-19-2023, 09:40 AM   #25
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I don't think this is really the concern you are making it out to be here. Sure, it won't be nimble like a miata or even 911...but, the GM steering is good. Real good. Like the only mainstream cars rivaling Porsche electric steering and that somehow doesn't suffer from the dead-spots and ridiculous stuff BMW designed into theirs. Just look at the new Darkhorse vs. the old 1LE, Ford still hasn't figured it out either. Typically the heavier cars will feel better at speed anyway, maybe not carve the tightest arc, but you won't likely be in a situation where you are trying to tear the car back and forth at the limits of it's grip, the "fun" you have with it will likely be well within it's grip capability. GM also has dynamics dialed. If you watched/read the blackwing reviews...this seems to be unanimous. If you are going to go for a big car, I don't think it'll disappoint. I think interior differences are more about long-term bias than real quantifiable differences. There are differences...but they are much more "in the noise" these days. My 2SS interior is nicer than a friends Cayman I sat it. Sure, it's "just" a Cayman...but there's also not this giant chasm that people make there out to be between German cars and others. People kind of flip out when I drive them in my "Kia", as in "OMG, I never knew Kia made a car like this!?"...but it's like a carbon-copy of my BMW 4 series from a couple years ago. Point is the giant chasm/gap just doesn't exist anymore. There are people though that still see what they want to see, no matter what is in front of them.
Agreed. I've been with the minority over the past few generations of BMW's in that BMW has lost the plot, and GM is quietly eating their lunch. The E90 has been such a sweetheart from a driver's perspective ... it's just slow nowadays. The numb steering on the F80/F10/G80/F90 is what it is unfortunately ... I think I read a quote from a BMW exec that stated that this is what their customers wanted according to their surveys. On the interior parts ... GM has come a long ways. (I owned a C5 Z06, and that was the definition of parts bin interior complete with Tonka Toy sized buttons.) But as an exercise, build up a BW on their website and tell me that the interior styling and the premium option rubber floormats don't rub you the wrong way. Like I said, it's not a deal breaker, but for $100K+ ... a tad irritating. The 2025 updates are apparently addressing this, so maybe I just build up the E90 and wait.

I've watched all the reviews too, and I think it's a no-brainer. I'm just selfishly looking for the first-hand experience confirmation that this is a no-brainer. Thx.
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