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      06-23-2018, 10:16 AM   #71
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Originally Posted by Influence View Post
I'd love a Cayenne, but I just built a 2019 base model and equipped similarly to how I'd spec an X5 40 (M Sport, convenience package, Luxury seating package, Dynamic Handling package, premium package, HK stereo), the MSRP comes up to $96,600. That should be a good 20K higher than what the X5 is priced at. Plus, Porsche doesn't discount much, so it could be as much as a 25K difference overall. That is a big $$$ difference, at least to me. Though the Cayenne is damn nice, I'd have to strip the thing down so much to keep it under 80K (i.e. no PASM, no air suspension, no 4-wheel steering, no PDCC - pretty much all the things that make it drive really well) that it just wouldn't be worth it to me.

As for the Velar, that is a smaller vehicle than an X5, so not really a direct competitor. Closer to the new X3 in size. The Velar doesn't really drive that well either, at least for an enthusiast. The Jaguar F-Pace is pretty fun though, but the interior is really cheap (I had a rental 2018 3.5t for a week recently) and the tech/infotainment system is a joke. Rear visibility sucks out of it too (same issue with the Velar). The Velar fixes the interior, but it is just too heavy with all its unnecessary off-road hardware (seriously, what owner ever takes their Velar/RR Sport off road??? .1%???)
Perhaps one should say "If you have to ask the price of maintenance, you can't afford it", but that is also a consideration when choosing between BMW and Porsche. My 2014 991 C2S cost some $400 for the first and third year's scheduled maintenance, nearly $800 for the second, and $2000 for the fourth year. I have yet to pay a nickel for scheduled maintenance on my BMW's.
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