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      11-20-2021, 12:24 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by kplatinum777 View Post

I think it’s unlikely to void your warranty, any more than any of the other stuff people code.

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the protection offered by the FTC under the Magnuson-Moss Act as well as under some state AG
As above, Moss-Mag & "state AG protections" aren't likely practical (which state AG wants to hold a press conf about defending BMW coder guy?), but nevertheless, your probability is likely low ... though just to flesh that out for nerd sake:

(1.) Void warranty: real?
Except in certain specific (and noted) cases there's more/less no "voiding", rather what happens is, the dealer submits for service reimbursement and/or pre-auth for service work, then BMWNA approves or denies, then the dealer does or doesn't do the work. With that, the effect can be the same, depending on the work refused, as BMWNA could simply continue refusing reimbursement so it's like a void. Again, just being nerdy.

(2.) What if the dealership knows about the rogue touchscreen?
That's probably not the risk; the reason is because the dealership is an independent business who likely makes the bulk of their income from service work, so it's in their best interest to do as much work as you request whether BMWNA pays them via a warranty claim or you pay them. In short, dealerships aren't very incented to shed light where there is no darkness, so if they can plausibly say they will

(3.) What if something bigger fails?
To your point, as is the risk with any mod that's not a simple replace (i.e., new wheels, new exhaust, etc), and requires spelunking (i.e., chip mods, coding, new turbos, etc) you enter into a grey area ... if the dealership can easily fix it (e.g., most coding) they're likely to just do that to keep the gravy train rolling and send you on your way. OTOH if you show up with a spun crank hub ... well the dealership is going to have no choice but to call that one in .. and then BMWNA is probably going to send out an engineer as well as ask for a data dump, and after that engineer sees the problem & data, (and probably estimates the cost) then BMWNA will approve or deny. Which means deny.


NET-NET
As long as nothing big electrical/computer fails, or whatever fails is very easy for the dealership to quietly repair, you're good; which likely means overall your probability is low.
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