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He said that the fitment was not correct at all.
Also the brake wear sensor wasn't long enough to work with this brake pad as well.
That would include the 17-1609b as well since that only difference between the 2 are additional hardware.
The z23 would be the same if it says 1609b.
The difference between the z23 and the z16 more or less the pad material and additional hardware. The 1609 portion would be the sizing.
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