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      04-15-2016, 03:26 AM   #21
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Simon, you know the one word I have for you: Dinan. I'm not dismissing these other products, and some of them feature more aggressive tunes, but it's obvious that you want a refined tune, not a fire-breathing track setup. Dinan tunes are expensive because they are extensively tested and warranteed. If you are not a seasoned wrench-turner or serious hobbyist, why drive yourself crazy with all the maps and variables offered by these products, especially on a brand-new car? And I am very dubious about the claims I hear regarding the extent to which some of these tuners have cracked the ECU codes for the most up-to-date BMWs. I am not flinging mud at any of these products, nor questioning their integrity or denying their usefulness to a specialised type of consumer; I'm just saying that you have to have to have a certain level of technical commitment and a high tolerance for risk to subject yourself to the enormous potential downside. The Dinan S1 tune makes my 228i as fast from 0 to 60 as a stock M235i, if not a tad faster, and has never given me so much as a millisecond of anxiety; no hiccups, no CELs, no non-linear power delivery. And if I had a 235i, I would have sprung for the Dinan S2 by now, which will get that car from 0 to 60 in 4 sec flat. If you're not an autocrosser, track rat or drag racer but just want a really well-sorted DD, what use could you possibly have for more than that?? Take a look at this video; it's about how to balance performance with stability when making tuning products for expensive new cars.
Dinan tunes are expensive because they are extensively tested

No ... thats not why they are expensive
All companies do extensive testing or else you would have damaged engines all over the forums

If you are not a seasoned wrench-turner or serious hobbyist, why drive yourself crazy with all the maps and variables offered by these products, especially on a brand-new car

Just because you are not seasoned does not mean you should choose a product that offers less features
You can get any tune and leave it on the default map if you do not want to mess with the extra features


I'm just saying that you have to have to have a certain level of technical commitment and a high tolerance for risk to subject yourself to the enormous potential downside

What are these enormous potential downside when you pick a tune different than Dinan?
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