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Originally Posted by paliknight
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Originally Posted by dezzracer
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
BMW, like MB, Audi, VW and Porsche are building and selling what US buyers want; SUVs and SAVs.
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And they will continue to build performance vehicles like the M3 CS for niche buyers like us. Because we want them , we drive brand awareness and loyalty , and then we buy their SUV's for normal duty for our family's.
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Seeing how the F80 CS sold, I highly doubt they'll continue the CS with the G80.
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They sold all 1200 units and I think made healthy profit. Some paid MSRP, some paid mid 80s. Some like me paid in middle. Regardless they built a fantastic limited edition niche car and made money. Perhaps more importantly they pulled a guy like me away from American muscle and made a first time BMW buyer a fan of the brand.
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Some paid MSRP and most paid low 80's for a LEASE. BMW initially released this as a collector car since they didn't even allow learning until they saw all their units sitting on dealer floors.
When you value a car at six figures then have to discount it 20-30% AND lease it out, I wouldn't call that a success. The CS is about 30k more than the base but sells for nearly the same price on the used car market.
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Well neither one of us knows what 1200 people actually paid and who leased and who bought. Very few are on forums and even fewer state what they paid. I remember all the bashing about the price on the CS when it was released. Especially by those that did not have one.
If you paid low 90s like I did then you paid about 15 K over a F80 comp. If we are to believe the people that have actually tracked both cars the power and handling differences between a comp and the CS is significant. Plus you got over $15k worth of factory installed carbon and unique lightweight wheels . So I maintain it was not a bad value. I do not lease cars as I feel financially it does not make sense for me. I buy and keep my weekend cars for 5-10 years. With that said, my point was not the value of a CS but that halo specialty cars have a positive impact on selling the rest of the brand's models.