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Okay I may have quoted the wrong statement, but it refers to the general discontent here. And I'm far from being pleasured with everything they're doing recently, mainly related to the design though (but that's not something I blame the M division for).
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09-17-2018, 05:14 PM | #25 |
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Whatever it takes for BMW to finally get "M xDrive" in the M3 / M4 I'm all for it!
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Wow, this new head honcho is only 30? I have some hope for the M brand especially if his car of choice is a Z3M-coupe.
The last boi seemed to lack enthusiasm for the M brand and was heavily on the safe side of things. Good riddance.
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Frankly, there were was probably about zero BMW M fans that trusted Van Meel.
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I think this will be good for BMW and new M Cars. He oversaw the 8 series which is a car already praised by Car and Driver in its prototype state for a communicative chassis and steering feel. If he can work his magic he did on the M850i onto other M cars, I think it will do BMW some good in getting its mojo back.
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BMW M has been doing OK but lacking some passion since Segler left...
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making cars is not as a joy as driving one.
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M withered and lost miles against the competition under Van Meel.
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Hopefully BMW M won't get watered down like AMG 65, 63, 53, 45, 43, 35...
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Now please replace the Head of Design...
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Guys there's a misunderstanding of the job duty of the project manager here.
In most companies, project manager isn't the one that's engineering the products or even deciding what they should be. Instead, it's hired by that person to manage and ensure the successful execution of the project. Successful means project delivers what project approver/initiator wants, within given time and under given budget. That is to say, good or bad the way 8 series is as a product, he's not responsible for it. He's responsible for that it showed up as is. And he will be responsible from now on for the realization of the vision of whoever it is behind M curtain.
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Frequent change at the top is indicative of chronic or unsolved problems.
Actual personalities of those two involved aside, I find it a bit disheartening that the flagship BMW division cannot find a sufficiently strong and passionate leader, with a sufficiently strong vision that can endure the test of time, and who doesn’t want to move over to anything else. You know, like Andreas Preuninger over at Porsche GT. Someone who lives and breathes Motorsport and wants to make M cars be head and shoulders above the competition (as much as that is possible in an era of omnispread technology). But at least someone who doesn’t want to rise to the top because the M division is already the top of his list.
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AMG approach is the best IMO if you had to do it. AMG-ness increases with 35, 43, 45, 63 and the future 73. Low number is entry level but still holds a position of AMG. With BMW, however, the focus is on the M badge legitimacy. No one other than some of their owners accept M35/40/50 are entry level M, which is a problem because that's mostly how they're sold as the factory intended.
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He drives one of the top M cars of all type, the original M Coupe!
This homeslice gets two thumbs and two big toes up from me. Yahooooo!
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