[adr1974]

Originally Posted by avengerboater

Ditto on that.

Mine will have third row, so I've got some time...but in looking at the better pictures of anthracite, it seems mostly dark and grey. It should blend nicely into the dash and offer nice (non-conflicting) contrast with the tartufo...or maybe i'm just trying to talk myself into it...

[kk88]

Originally Posted by adr1974

Mine will have third row, so I've got some time...but in looking at the better pictures of anthracite, it seems mostly dark and grey. It should blend nicely into the dash and offer nice (non-conflicting) contrast with the tartufo...or maybe i'm just trying to talk myself into it...

Honestly it looks great with the dash as a whole and I think it adds a refined/luxurious look to the cabin. The Matt is more brown compared to grey and overall I think it would look great with a brown, black or beige interior. Personally, I wouldn't get it with a grey interior.

[TucErDoc]

Originally Posted by kk88

Honestly it looks great with the dash as a whole and I think it adds a refined/luxurious look to the cabin. The Matt is more brown compared to grey and overall I think it would look great with a brown, black or beige interior. Personally, I wouldn't get it with a grey interior.

What about the ivory? In your option would it pair well with that?

[adr1974]

Originally Posted by kk88

Honestly it looks great with the dash as a whole and I think it adds a refined/luxurious look to the cabin. The Matt is more brown compared to grey and overall I think it would look great with a brown, black or beige interior. Personally, I wouldn't get it with a grey interior.

This s*it is impossible. Everyone has a different read on it. You're saying it's more brown than grey...a poster above is saying it's more grey/black...goddam these decisions are hard.

[skalberti]

Originally Posted by adr1974

This s*it is impossible. Everyone has a different read on it. You're saying it's more brown than grey...a poster above is saying it's more grey/black...goddam these decisions are hard.

The pics I posted above are accurate in their color representation . It's more brown to coco, but some of how it looks will vary on the color leather paired with it. What color are you leaning towards?

[adr1974]

Originally Posted by skalberti

The pics I posted above are accurate in their color representation . It's more brown to coco, but some of how it looks will vary on the color leather paired with it. What color are you leaning towards?

I'm struggling. I have mocha in my F15, and while I like it, it's a bit too dark. Would like something lighter. Tartufo looks amazing in some pictures, but too orange in others (I don't mind a reddish tint...but don't really like orange). Coffee looks too dark in some pics, but perfect in others.

[skalberti]

Originally Posted by adr1974

I'm struggling. I have mocha in my F15, and while I like it, it's a bit too dark. Would like something lighter. Tartufo looks amazing in some pictures, but too orange in others (I don't mind a reddish tint...but don't really like orange). Coffee looks too dark in some pics, but perfect in others.

We had the mocha design in our F15. Like you we wanted lighter and coffee delivers. It's more of a milk chocolate in person and a lighter than the mocha. Cognac looks orange in pictures, but is more tan in persons. Tarfuto is more orange in person if your leaning towards the orange. I adjusted the white balance in my pics so they look as they do in person.

[adr1974]

Originally Posted by skalberti

We had the mocha design in our F15. Like you we wanted lighter and coffee delivers. It's more of a milk chocolate in person and a lighter than the mocha. Cognac looks orange in pictures, but is more tan in persons. Tarfuto is more orange in person if your leaning towards the orange. I adjusted the white balance in my pics so they look as they do in person.

That's really helpful -- appreciate it...and thinking I'll now go with coffee/anthracite.

[kk88]

Originally Posted by TucErDoc

What about the ivory? In your option would it pair well with that?

I do actually. The white with the matt brown would look great. Personally I think the contrast would be great. Please post a pic if you do that combo!

[3to5toX5toX7]

I thought I would post some pictures of the leather samples in case anyone else is struggling with the colors, like I was. I ordered Tartufo, but changed to Coffee after seeing how orange it looks in person. I had a chance to see samples yesterday in sunlight, and I while its less orange in person than in the pictures, its still fairly orange. I took these pictures on my white (dirty) car with an iPhone X to help maintain color balance. The large swatch of leather is Tartufo that was taken inside next to the small Coffee sample.

[skalberti]

Originally Posted by baca8302

I thought I would post some pictures of the leather samples in case anyone else is struggling with the colors, like I was. I ordered Tartufo, but changed to Coffee after seeing how orange it looks in person. I had a chance to see samples yesterday in sunlight, and I while its less orange in person than in the pictures, its still fairly orange. I took these pictures on my white (dirty) car with an iPhone X to help maintain color balance. The large swatch of leather is Tartufo that was taken inside next to the small Coffee sample.

Coffee is the perfect color to me. No orange or red.

[paul45]

Originally Posted by skalberti

Coffee is the perfect bribe to me. No orange or red.

I did look at all of them and cognac and Tartufo both looked orangish in daylight.

Coffee looked the best, very rich appearing and reminded me of dark saddle color.

[mbhammer]

Originally Posted by adr1974

This s*it is impossible. Everyone has a different read on it. You're saying it's more brown than grey...a poster above is saying it's more grey/black...goddam these decisions are hard.

Across a few threads, I've posted hi-res pix of 4KT, otherwise known at Anthracite-Brown Matte Poplar Wood trim. Search on mbhammer within this forum and you'll find my photos.

Here's the definitive real deal on 4KT: it takes on the color reflected onto it.

Ever painted a room in your house "off-white?" Whichever off-white color you pick, if it's a flat or semi-gloss paint, it will take on the color of what's in the room: the floor, the carpet, the furniture. 100% true.

4KT is a matte finish, and unlike the high-gloss trims, it too will take on the color of what's around it and how what's around it is lit.

Here is 4KT, lit straight-on by direct sunlight:



You see there ALL of the colors people think they see in it. BUT...

Pair it with Coffee leather, take it out of direct sunlight, and the BROWN expresses itself.

Pair it with Black leather, take it out of direct sunlight, and the GREY/BLACK (COAL) expresses itself.

With other color leathers, you'll have to use this insight to predict the impact of the reflected light color on the perceived color of 4KT. For example, I'd think - not certain - that if you pair it with Ivory leather, it'd likely make the authentic wood grain really pop, across it's FULL SPECTRUM of colors. Thinking with the light leather/dark trim contrast, this could be a killer pairing that shows off the beauty (IMHO) of 4KT. Looking forward to seeing photos mid-December from roadkillrob who ordered this combo.

(Personally, I'd shy away from pairing it with Tartufo, since Tartufo tends orange to my eye. But if you do, I'd expect 4KT to appear more brown-ish than grey.)

The other important thing to remember is that tinted windows - both aftermarket and factory - will impact the perceived color of 4KT. Sunlight coming through the windows of a closed-door cabin wrapped with tinted windows will have a blue-ish cast to it. Such lighting will cause 4KT to tend more GREY/BLACK, particularly with black leather.

And there you have it. The enigma solved.

Q: So... what color is 4KT?

A: It depends.

[adr1974]

Originally Posted by mbhammer

Across a few threads, I've posted hi-res pix of 4KT, otherwise known at Anthracite-Brown Matte Poplar Wood trim. Search on mbhammer within this forum and you'll find my photos.

Here's the definitive real deal on 4KT: [COLOR="Blue"]it takes on the color reflected onto it.[/COLOR]

Ever painted a room in your house "off-white?" Whichever off-white color you pick, if it's a flat or semi-gloss paint, it will take on the color of what's in the room: the floor, the carpet, the furniture. 100% true.

4KT is a matte finish, and unlike the high-gloss trims, it too will take on the color of what's around it and how what's around it is lit.

Here is 4KT, lit straight-on by direct sunlight:

Attachment 1941182

You see there ALL of the colors people think they see in it. BUT...

[COLOR="Blue"]Pair it with Coffee leather, take it out of direct sunlight, and the BROWN expresses itself.

Pair it with Black leather, take it out of direct sunlight, and the GREY/BLACK (COAL) expresses itself.[/COLOR]

(Personally, I'd shy away from pairing it with Tartufo, since Tartufo tends orange to my eye. But if you do, I'd expect 4KT to appear more brown-ish than grey.)

The other important thing to remember is that tinted windows - both aftermarket and factory - will impact the perceived color of 4KT. Sunlight coming through the windows of a closed-door cabin wrapped with tinted windows will have a blue-ish cast to it. Such lighting will cause 4KT to tend more GREY/BLACK, particularly with black leather. With other color leathers, you have to use this insight to predict the impact of the reflected light color on the perceived color of 4KT.

And there you have it. The enigma solved.

Q: So... what color is 4KT?

A: It depends.

So how do you think it would pair with ivory white?

[roadkillrob]

Originally Posted by adr1974

So how do you think it would pair with ivory white?

I will tell you in 3 weeks because that is what I did!

[JGoodell]

Originally Posted by mbhammer

Across a few threads, I've posted hi-res pix of 4KT, otherwise known at Anthracite-Brown Matte Poplar Wood trim. Search on mbhammer within this forum and you'll find my photos.

Here's the definitive real deal on 4KT: it takes on the color reflected onto it.

Ever painted a room in your house "off-white?" Whichever off-white color you pick, if it's a flat or semi-gloss paint, it will take on the color of what's in the room: the floor, the carpet, the furniture. 100% true.

4KT is a matte finish, and unlike the high-gloss trims, it too will take on the color of what's around it and how what's around it is lit.

Here is 4KT, lit straight-on by direct sunlight:

Attachment 1941182

You see there ALL of the colors people think they see in it. BUT...

Pair it with Coffee leather, take it out of direct sunlight, and the BROWN expresses itself.

Pair it with Black leather, take it out of direct sunlight, and the GREY/BLACK (COAL) expresses itself.

(Personally, I'd shy away from pairing it with Tartufo, since Tartufo tends orange to my eye. But if you do, I'd expect 4KT to appear more brown-ish than grey.)

The other important thing to remember is that tinted windows - both aftermarket and factory - will impact the perceived color of 4KT. Sunlight coming through the windows of a closed-door cabin wrapped with tinted windows will have a blue-ish cast to it. Such lighting will cause 4KT to tend more GREY/BLACK, particularly with black leather. With other color leathers, you have to use this insight to predict the impact of the reflected light color on the perceived color of 4KT.

And there you have it. The enigma solved.

Q: So... what color is 4KT?

A: It depends.

Well done. This is a late nominee for post of the year.

[mbhammer]

Originally Posted by JGoodell

Well done. This is a late nominee for post of the year.

JGoodell Thanks for the appreciation/acknowledgement. Having struggled myself with making the decision without seeing any samples, I empathize with others who are trying to decide if 4KT is right for them or not. I hope my post somehow helps those folks.

In response the the question from adr1974 about pairing 4KT with Ivory, I updated my original post (#35 in this thread).

Good luck to those working through this decision.

[Wild Blue]

Tastes like chicken, too.

[adr1974]

Originally Posted by Wild Blue

Tastes like chicken, too.

You ate 4kt?

[mbarrett635]

Originally Posted by roadkillrob

I will tell you in 3 weeks because that is what I did!

It's a race! I've ordered this combination as well -- supposed to be a first week December build.

[roadkillrob]

Originally Posted by mbarrett635

It's a race! I've ordered this combination as well -- supposed to be a first week December build.

Sounds like we are in the same week - week 49 is completion first week of December (should go into production next week). You however are a little bit closer to Spartanburg.

[Ranger714]

Nice pics