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And to think all the nay-sayers did not believe it was going to happen. The writing was on the wall that the current V8 was going to be phased out.
Not to be an ass, but the 2019 50i resale value just took a big blow because of this. We have personally dealt with a similar situation when the E65/E66 7-Series went from a 745 to 750 because of an engine upgrade. We got clobbered...and the car still had a year of factory warranty remaining. Last edited by SCA; 05-22-2019 at 02:50 PM.. |
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05-22-2019, 02:32 PM | #49 |
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Deals to be had now until production ceases for the 50i in July. Anyone with the information that the M50i is coming can clearly make that point to any BMW center. If one cannot acquire a significant discount then obviously that individual should wait and order the M50i.
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05-22-2019, 02:43 PM | #51 |
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Yep... it is not profitable to produce two V8s with similar architecture. Furthermore the V8s have always sold in low numbers in comparison to the six cylinders. This also makes the case for only needing one V8 (non M) throughout the BMW lineup and clearly be the newest version of it.
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05-22-2019, 03:02 PM | #53 |
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It’s not that big of a deal to current X5/X7 50i M-Sport owners as the current V8TT is a reliable and powerful engine. It was just updated for the 2019 X5 50i. 67hp isn’t going to change anything unless the M50i has firmer suspension and that won’t be a selling point to many and it may be to others.
I think those that really want a firm track oriented X5 and want bragging rights will just buy the X5M. The assumption that everyone wants a ”full M car” is ridiculous. There are a lot buying the X7 and X5 50i that want luxurious power with a luxurious ride. Most every enthusiast that are buying the current 50i knows the M50i was coming. They are both marketed as a 50i so resale value won’t change. IMO. Last edited by MystroX5; 05-22-2019 at 03:09 PM.. |
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As a former center employee I strongly disagree as would my former new car sales mgr and used sales mgr. We have seen this happen repeatedly and the last that comes to mind is the 2006 E90 330i which was an all new car with an all new engine (N52). In 2007 the 335i was released with an all new engine (N54) and the resale values of the 330s got slaughtered. The E90 330i was a one year car, just like the G05 50i is becoming. These quick engine updates never do any favors for the initial buyers. Last edited by SCA; 05-22-2019 at 03:29 PM.. |
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05-22-2019, 03:31 PM | #55 |
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OK, everybody is happy with the power increase. I like it, but... why this car has only 882 lbs payload? I cannot take three friends with me going for a weekend trip... that's ridiculous.
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05-22-2019, 03:54 PM | #56 | |
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On paper, there's nothing the M50i isn't better at than the xDrive50i. Don't even understand the concerns about suspension. The car isn't even out yet and nobody except BMW test engineers know how it drives. It's still a large family-oriented SUV geared towards comfort and practicality, unlike a hardcore M-badged car. I highly doubt the M-suspension tuning will make this car any significantly worse to daily drive than a xDrive50i. Let's be realistic. Nobody in the market for a V8 powered X5 (maybe save for a tiny fraction of individuals) is going to prefer a xDrive50i over a M50i barring significant price reductions on the former. |
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05-22-2019, 04:02 PM | #57 |
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I see this like when BMW introduced the M5 then they introduced the M5 Competition. One could say they screwed the M5 owners but it doesn’t take away how good the M5 is. BMW will do this with the new X5M then have a X5M Competition.
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I never understood the destination charge. I come to the dealer to pick up the car. And when you go and buy a refrigerator, do they charge you $300 for destination? I think its just a bullshit fee.
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Is this correct? Just curious because my 2019 50i has the M Sport Exhaust and it was a dealer lot car (however, it was surprisingly loaded for a dealer car with B&W speakers and such). How come it has the M Sport Exhaust, could they have still added it to the order?
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I'm a little confused, is this for the European market only or are these models coming to the United States as well?
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The current M-Sport exhaust on the 50i is one of, if not THE best sounding BMW’s in a long time. Totally isolated with the windows up but awesome from behind. My guess is the exhaust on the M50i will sound the same with maybe a few “pops” programmed in. It will be great. I am excited to see how BMW could engineer a already awesome sounding exhaust better. I just hope they don’t pipe in artificial exhaust noise through the speakers. |
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I didn’t read in the BMW Blog the X5/X7 M50i was replacing the X5/X7 50i. Was that reported? Last edited by MystroX5; 05-22-2019 at 04:34 PM.. |
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Yes, it is expected as BMW simply cannot justify two V8 models (50i & M50i). There is only one X3 and X4 model with a six cylinder (M40i), only one V8 model for the 5 and 8 which are both M50s. |
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