[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by Vinnrox250

Yeah, two of my vehicles, I have the ability to turn them off, and I’ve even coded them to where they stay off. My M3, it just stays off. In the vehicle of this caliber, I would really think they give you an option to turn it on and off like they used to. It’ll be a fourth vehicle, so I don’t need it, if I needed it, it may not be as much a dealbreaker as I don’t like much else on the market, but it is for my application.

Can I ask if you know how this get implemented in manual M3? Is it totally out of the picture, say complete disable? I am trying to find a G80 manual rwd M3 as this maybe my last chance for a bmw manual non electrified daily and track car.

[Vinnrox250]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

Can I ask if you know how this get implemented in manual M3? Is it totally out of the picture, say complete disable? I am trying to find a G80 manual rwd M3 as this maybe my last chance for a bmw manual non electrified daily and track car.

I think manuals have it too. The engine shuts off when the clutch is out and the cars in neutral. But at least in the automatics, I have a competition, if you turn it off, it stays off. Thankfully. We get a button.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by Vinnrox250

I think manuals have it too. The engine shuts off when the clutch is out and the cars in neutral. But at least in the automatics, I have a competition, if you turn it off, it stays off. Thankfully. We get a button.

I kept my M3 in Sport+/Sport settings all times so I never worried about it. I’ll likely keep the incoming X5 in Sport settings at all times too.

[Vinnrox250]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

I kept my M3 in Sport+/Sport settings all times so I never worried about it. I’ll likely keep the incoming X5 in Sport settings at all times too.

Ya I like my M3 in sport. Haven’t done a bunch of sport + for more than a couple fun roads/pulls. But there are times where comfort or efficient is nice. Stop and go in downtown etc, car doesn’t hold gears and want to fly off the line. I just wish the button or a hack existed. I’d never go Benz. And Audi is meh. And x5m is overkill. I wanted balanced. I don’t know, will see as of now; I’m actively window shopping, but hoping something changes. But your settings may be the only fix and if you’re use to that, it’ll be perfect. But just always race car, I’m not sure about. May need to drive before order vs order before drive on this one.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by Vinnrox250

I think manuals have it too. The engine shuts off when the clutch is out and the cars in neutral. But at least in the automatics, I have a competition, if you turn it off, it stays off. Thankfully. We get a button.

So when I depress clutch, ASS kick start the engine, anticipate I will shift into 1st and go? wow, really, this sounds dangerous to me. I am unable to find a manual for test drive amongst 5 dealers nearby. I wish BMW make a competition for the RWD manual. But I am not in hurry. I think I will get the last model year of RWD manual, I think it will be last non electrify M3 and with manual. I will keep this car for the next 20-25 years maybe more ...

[Vinnrox250]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

So when I depress clutch, ASS kick start the engine, anticipate I will shift into 1st and go? wow, really, this sounds dangerous to me. I am unable to find a manual for test drive amongst 5 dealers nearby. I wish BMW make a competition for the RWD manual.

I am not too sure personally, since I don’t have one. I’m just going based off of what I’ve read on the forms under the M3 and manual trans. I just keep my button on the console to ASS off.

[postbox1918]

In my X5M50i i disabled the ASS with xhp transmission tune and in my brother's 2023 X3M40i coded the start up mode to sports individual and keep all settings to Comfort and ASS is turned off.

[MC113]

Originally Posted by postbox1918

In my X5M50i i disabled the ASS with xhp transmission tune and in my brother's 2023 X3M40i coded the start up mode to sports individual and keep all settings to Comfort and ASS is turned off.

Do these fixes void your warranty?

[MC113]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

I kept my M3 in Sport+/Sport settings all times so I never worried about it. I’ll likely keep the incoming X5 in Sport settings at all times too.

I've resorted to driving in the Sport Driving Mode all the time to keep the auto start/stop disengaged. Keeping the transmission in D as opposed to S helps to make it not so mental around town.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by MC113

Do these fixes void your warranty?

Nothing voids an entire warranty but certain items may not be covered if it can be shown that the coding caused the issue. In this case if anything goes wrong with the transmission it likely will not be covered if the dealer notices the changes and wants to push it.

[chefwong]

Originally Posted by postbox1918

In my X5M50i i disabled the ASS with xhp transmission tune and in my brother's 2023 X3M40i coded the start up mode to sports individual and keep all settings to Comfort and ASS is turned off.

Prior to 03/23, we had it set to default on Adaptive via Bimmercode
Maybe it's placebo but even with Sport Individ. : Engine in Comfort, feels like it keeps the revs longer than in Adaptive @ times. (maybe I'm in Eco and I'm not even aware when I'm under Adaptive)

[postbox1918]

Originally Posted by chefwong

Prior to 03/23, we had it set to default on Adaptive via Bimmercode
Maybe it's placebo but even with Sport+ : Engine in Comfort, feels like it keeps the revs longer than in Adaptive @ times. (maybe I'm in Eco and I'm not even aware when I'm under Adaptive)

That's strange because in sports+ everything goes to sports so it's not possible that your engine stays in comfort mode when sports+ mode is activated. Yeah its possible to customize engine, transmission and suspension in sports individual mode to sports or comfort but not in sports+

[chefwong]

Typo: Sports Ind.

Expand on that - module- that disables it hardware wise - LINK

[X6ix GTA]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

So when I depress clutch, ASS kick start the engine, anticipate I will shift into 1st and go? wow, really, this sounds dangerous to me. I am unable to find a manual for test drive amongst 5 dealers nearby. I wish BMW make a competition for the RWD manual. But I am not in hurry. I think I will get the last model year of RWD manual, I think it will be last non electrify M3 and with manual. I will keep this car for the next 20-25 years maybe more ...

10 years ago while on a business trip to Belgium, I drove a rental manual transmission BMW hatchback (can't rem the model) for a couple of weeks. My first ever experience with ASS. When it first kicked in, I thought the car had died but then I realized what it was. Didn't have any issues driving the car around town or on the highway. There was an option to disable the ASS though which I didn't use. It was a perfect little car for the narrow streets and parking lots.

[rmorin1249]

Originally Posted by str8line

I just happened upon this thread as I'm just starting to research a possible 2024 X6 40i purchase. This is deal breaker to me if it's like the 2023 X1 I rented a few weeks ago. I was so excited about this vehicle, what a bummer. Time to stock up on older BMW's I guess, even though I already have a bunch, lol.

I agree. I despise A.S.S. and if I was unable to deactivate it I would not buy the vehicle. I've resigned myself that I will not be buying another new BMW. I will likely buy used going forward.

[crackerjack15]

I'm glad someone feels the same as me and I'm not crazy. As the owner of a New X7 M60i, i've had the same experiences. It ruins the times when you want to drive relaxed and smoothly. The constant on/off is insane. And makes for a jerky experience at times. Especially when your coming to a slow turn, but not coming to a complete stop and it shuts off, then you proceed to press on the accelerator but it has to restart, meanwhile you have pressed down every so slightly more and then you end up with more acceleration that you want. stupid. I am probably not going to keep this vehicle for very long. Life's short. It's a luxury purchase that I don't need anyhow.

[BMthusiast]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

I'm glad someone feels the same as me and I'm not crazy.

You're definitely not crazy. I get that it needs to default upon start-up for EPA reasons, but not being able to toggle it off after start-up with a push of a button is what's crazy. From what I'm reading here though the best solution is driving in D with Sport Individual set to Damping Comfort, Steering Comfort, Engine Comfort, and Transmission Sport.

[postbox1918]

Originally Posted by chefwong

Typo: Sports Ind.

Expand on that - module- that disables it hardware wise - LINK

That module connects to the wiring of BDC module and it permanently disabled the ASS feature and you cannot activate the feature without removing the module from wiring.
It's a tricky solution but you can PM me .

[Mynoles1]

Originally Posted by BMthusiast

You're definitely not crazy. I get that it needs to default upon start-up for EPA reasons, but not being able to toggle it off after start-up with a push of a button is what's crazy. From what I'm reading here though the best solution is driving in D with Sport Individual set to Damping Comfort, Steering Comfort, Engine Comfort, and Transmission Sport.

I'm with you, and others. Yes, I can disable ASS through going Sport, and do so all the time, but I actually love the dash color in Comfort mode better than the Sport dash. There is something familiar about a predominately orange background in my gauges - that is legacy BMW for me dating back to 1999. The red in the sport is fine, I do like it as well, but nothing beats the orange/white for me. I can handle pressing the sport button but wish I had more options for the dash configuration.

[streborx]

Originally Posted by postbox1918

That module connects to the wiring of BDC module and it permanently disabled the ASS feature and you cannot activate the feature without removing the module from wiring.
It's a tricky solution but you can PM me .

I don't doubt that there's a means to defeat ASS, but with its integration into the mild hybrid system, it would seem likely to throw error messages and/or OBDII codes. Once at startup, would not be so bad, but if error messages recurred while driving, it could be annoying. Can you comment?

[postbox1918]

Originally Posted by MC113

Do these fixes void your warranty?

Frankly speaking i work in parts dept and i worked in bmw in past and the answer to this question is that its not simply a black&white matter, legally they can't deny warranty until and unless it can be proved that such a normal mod or coding caused the issue but there are lots of other factors count like some dealership are cool with small mods/coding kinda things some dealerships are not, example like i tuned my transmission with xhp which can't be flagged by bmw scanner until they dig deep into that module and check all values and find some sudden change in values but they just can't deny my headunit warranty because my transmission is flashed .
It's a very controversial issue here lol and some may disagree with my opinion but i would recommend always check your local regulations and simply ask your service advisor if making such modification is ok and it won't cause any warranty issue before doing anything to your car, even i take precautions before making any mods to my car coz i know how expensive bmw parts are.
I see such warranty issues all the time at my work so i would again suggest to check with your service advisor and if the advisor is experienced bmw advisor you'll get a better picture of your local dealership's way of handling such issues.

[chefwong]

Originally Posted by postbox1918

That module connects to the wiring of BDC module and it permanently disabled the ASS feature and you cannot activate the feature without removing the module from wiring.
It's a tricky solution but you can PM me .

I was thinking it was just some sorta Aliexpress thing ?