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      09-24-2024, 10:46 AM   #45
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Surely this here is just an echo-chamber for people with issues. If the 50e was really as generally as bad as is implied here, there would be a general outcry from the great-unwashed. I'm still convinced that we are a minority of owners (call me naive). I do speak from experience - I'm expecting to pick up my replacement 50e next week having driven the current one for less than half the time I've owned it (as a result of many of the CEL/battery/SOS/Screen errors discussed here).

I still think that it it is a good vehicle - fast, comfortable, electric, ICE, ride height, style (contentious). Proof is that I'm still excited to get in the new one next week.
Hmm, "Echo chamber for people with issues". I'll just say that my BMW Sales Associate (...one of which I've purchased 2 vehicles from) suggested (...make that, "told me") to not get the 50e,...or even the X7. He said mention the Stop Sale of the 50e,...and said that both the newer X5s and X7s are having some kind of an issue with the "Brake Booster,...Module,...Controller" or whatever. So he told me to wait for new X5.
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Anyone else here decided they'd skip the 2024 50e and wait for the 2025 or the next X5?

I mean, I don't consider myself lucky with my 2021 45e, as it has been great since buying it last February! So, although I'd like to have the boost in power and range,...I certainly don't want a can of issues to deal with.

So, what say you guys regarding this concern?
So you Definitely don’t want a new body style . That’ll be even worse. I typically wait for the third running year and that’s what I did with this X5 and I’ve had zero issues. You’re typically best year is usually the last year that it runs, but the BMW hybrid best year was pre-LCI after that I wouldn’t touch them any of them that is the hybrid.

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So you Definitely don’t want a new body style . That’ll be even worse. I typically wait for the third running year and that’s what I did with this X5 and I’ve had zero issues. You’re typically best year is usually the last year that it runs, but the BMW hybrid best year was pre-LCI after that I wouldn’t touch them any of them that is the hybrid.
I'd like to believe there is improvement in quality and performance as time progresses! The only thing that pulls me to the 50e,...and because I drove one first hand,..is the suspension tweaks over the 45e and the increase power of the e/motor. Personally, I like the dash layout of regular G05s before they went to less buttons and continuous screen. However, I am and I was willing to accept that change over the gain of better handling, more power, and more e/range. But! No one wants a problem child.

Also, since I don't really want to order my own 50e (to specs), of those I've seen available as used don't have the Executive Pkg,...which is a Hard No for me if it doesn't come with the Exec. Pkg.

My 45e has everything except Soft Closed Doors...which I'm not even sure it was offered for 2021 45e.
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I'd like to believe there is improvement in quality and performance as time progresses! The only thing that pulls me to the 50e,...and because I drove one first hand,..is the suspension tweaks over the 45e and the increase power of the e/motor. Personally, I like the dash layout of regular G05s before they went to less buttons and continuous screen. However, I am and I was willing to accept that change over the gain of better handling, more power, and more e/range. But! No one wants a problem child.

Also, since I don't really want to order my own 50e (to specs), of those I've seen available as used don't have the Executive Pkg,...which is a Hard No for me if it doesn't come with the Exec. Pkg.

My 45e has everything except Soft Closed Doors...which I'm not even sure it was offered for 2021 45e.
With the advancements they made for the EV part is not reliable too many people suffer from long garage stays waiting on parts available or BMW trying to figure out what to do. I would stay away. I live by the same. I did not buy a new car for it to live in the garage if it starts that shit it’s going down the road regardless of what it goes for 20 years. I drove Land Rover Range Rover to only live in services with four by back In problem after problem, no thanks

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So you Definitely don’t want a new body style . That’ll be even worse. I typically wait for the third running year and that’s what I did with this X5 and I’ve had zero issues. You’re typically best year is usually the last year that it runs, but the BMW hybrid best year was pre-LCI after that I wouldn’t touch them any of them that is the hybrid.
i agree the last year of most models are essentially problem-free, but they can include both preLCI and LCI. for example, my wife leases. she got the:
- 2017 540i sDrive (first-release growing pains, buggy, always needed coolant topped off)
- 2020 540i xDrive (last of preLCI, no issues)
- 2023 530e xDrive (nearing end of LCI, no issues)

i'm glad i didn't upgrade my MY21 45e when the 50e came out. i'm highly interested in the iX5 but will wait until MY28, its second production year. my 45e will be 7y old by then, so i'm hoping it'll last

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Hmm, "Echo chamber for people with issues". I'll just say that my BMW Sales Associate (...one of which I've purchased 2 vehicles from) suggested (...make that, "told me") to not get the 50e,...or even the X7. He said mention the Stop Sale of the 50e,...and said that both the newer X5s and X7s are having some kind of an issue with the "Brake Booster,...Module,...Controller" or whatever. So he told me to wait for new X5.
Just so folks are confused, there is no stop sale specific to the 50e. It, along with many other models/brands, is part if the IBS recall/stop sale.

Your sales associate is confused though, that issue was solved over a month ago for the new production so no need to hold off on getting one.
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Just so folks are confused, there is no stop sale specific to the 50e. It, along with many other models/brands, is part if the IBS recall/stop sale.

Your sales associate is confused though, that issue was solved over a month ago for the new production so no need to hold off on getting one.
There’s a host of other problems that are still being worked out and have fixes, but have time constraints getting them done for owners. Give them a couple years and they’ll get their problem solved. Maybe with the new model just as a potential buyer and knowing what these issues have been, I would stay away from one

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Mine has been super reliable, except for the three times it’s been to the shop, once via flatbed. Most issues seem to be related to coolant valves and software.

Hopefully, they have this sorted out. I don’t think the 45e had issues like this.

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Mine has been super reliable, except for the three times it’s been to the shop, once via flatbed. Most issues seem to be related to coolant valves and software.

Hopefully, they have this sorted out. I don’t think the 45e had issues like this.
Not at all . They definitely had some challenges with the 50e

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There’s a host of other problems that are still being worked out and have fixes, but have time constraints getting them done for owners. Give them a couple years and they’ll get their problem solved. Maybe with the new model just as a potential buyer and knowing what these issues have been, I would stay away from one
We have not seen that for the MY25's on the forum, can you please give us some information?
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Hopefully, they have this sorted out. I don’t think the 45e had issues like this.
Yes, from what we have seen so far, the issues with the MY24's are not present in the MY25's.
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Just so folks are confused, there is no stop sale specific to the 50e. It, along with many other models/brands, is part if the IBS recall/stop sale.

Your sales associate is confused though, that issue was solved over a month ago for the new production so no need to hold off on getting one.

Thank you for the clarification,...much appreciated!
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Yes, from what we have seen so far, the issues with the MY24's are not present in the MY25's.
That’s great if they have Resolved issues on 2025 I’d be very skeptical after reading what people went through here on 2024 Would keep me away from a 50e 2025

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i'm glad i didn't upgrade my MY21 45e when the 50e came out. i'm highly interested in the iX5 but will wait until MY28, it second production year. my 45e will be 7y old by then, so i'm hoping it'll last
I probably don't have the same exact trajectory in mind, but this is where's I'm at too, fwiw. I sat in a new LCI X5 recently while getting my 2021 serviced; the "glued on dash design" looks just as half-assed to me in person as it does in the photos. And it's not just the "single, wide screen" aspect; I've sat in a Lucid, for example, and that display seems more integrated into the design, despite being even more disconnected from the dash itself. It's kinda like the "gigantic buck teeth" exterior design on the iX: I'd accepted that I might come to like it over time, but I haven't, and it still looks awful and stupid.

I still really like my X5, and I'm rooting for BMW to turn their design efforts and trajectory around in the future, and start making vehicles that are not aesthetically bad to me (and most automotive journalists). But failing that, it's going to be tough to consider getting another BMW in the near future.
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i'm glad i didn't upgrade my MY21 45e when the 50e came out. i'm highly interested in the iX5 but will wait until MY28, it second production year. my 45e will be 7y old by then, so i'm hoping it'll last
It is looking now like the iX5 will not be released with the introduction of the G65 in 2026 but wait until 2027.
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