[mobsync]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

yes. that being said, the 50e doesn’t even have a setting to limit the charge level; it’ll always charge to 100% of its usable capacity

Actually it does. Mine's set to 80% at the moment but I may change it to 100% since there is such a large reserve that we can't access.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by fr_tz

FWIW the Juicebox app says it supplied 23.05 kWh during that session. Juicebox app is terribly unreliable but thought I’d share for additional reference.

i would argue the EV JuiceNet app's charging stats are more accurate than the MyBMW app which uses the tilde approximation symbol (~) and can be plagued by server and telematics issues. as for the rest of the JuiceNet app, i consider it meh. i mainly refer to page 3 while actively charging and page 4 when the session is done (and sometimes the EVSE list page to ensure both JuiceBoxes are charging simultaneously as programmed)

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by mobsync

Actually it does. Mine's set to 80% at the moment but I may change it to 100% since there is such a large reserve that we can't access.

can you post a screenshot of said setting? is this in iDrive or on your EVSE?

javapro is this a new thing for the 50e, the ability to limit the charge to a desired level? doesn't make sense on this PHEV

[mobsync]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

can you post a screenshot of said setting? is this in iDrive or on your EVSE?

javapro is this a new thing for the 50e, the ability to limit the charge to a desired level? doesn't make sense on this PHEV

I'm away from the car at the moment but it is an iDrive setting. You can even set different levels based on saved charging locations.

[javapro]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

can you post a screenshot of said setting? is this in iDrive or on your EVSE?

javapro is this a new thing for the 50e, the ability to limit the charge to a desired level? doesn't make sense on this PHEV

I have no idea. Let’s see the iDrive setting screenshots from mobsync.

[jad03060]

It makes some sense in public charging sessions to potentially limit the maximum charge level as many of them seem to charge partly by the time you are connected. Charging to full really slows down once you get closer to full.

If this is there, that's a new feature...it does not exist in the 45e. It does not jump out in the manual, if it is...IOW, I couldn't find a reference to this capability.

[javapro]

Originally Posted by mobsync

I'm away from the car at the moment but it is an iDrive setting. You can even set different levels based on saved charging locations.

So, can you post some screenshots of that setting?

[javapro]

We got one report from mobsync. Can someone else generate one? Follow the instructions here - https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...95&postcount=1

[mobsync]

Here's a pic of the Charging settings-

[javapro]

Originally Posted by mobsync

Here's a pic of the Charging settings-

Great. Thank you.

[fr_tz]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

can you post a screenshot of said setting? is this in iDrive or on your EVSE?

javapro is this a new thing for the 50e, the ability to limit the charge to a desired level? doesn't make sense on this PHEV

Setting is both within iDrive and MyBMW app.

[fr_tz]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

i would argue the EV JuiceNet app's charging stats are more accurate than the MyBMW app which uses the tilde approximation symbol (~) and can be plagued by server and telematics issues. as for the rest of the JuiceNet app, i consider it meh. i mainly refer to page 3 while actively charging and page 4 when the session is done (and sometimes the EVSE list page to ensure both JuiceBoxes are charging simultaneously as programmed)

I’ve seen you reference JuiceNet a few times so I wanted to make sure that you knew that the JuiceNet app is the older Enel app. The newer app is Enel x Way. It’s the one circled in the screenshot.

[Bhuvi]

Originally Posted by javapro

We got one report from mobsync. Can someone else generate one? Follow the instructions here - https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...95&postcount=1

I submitted one today. Will revert back once I receive it.

[mobsync]

Another feature I haven't seen discussed yet that is new with the 50e is that you can press the lock button on the key fob three times and pre-conditioning will start. You don't have to do it from your phone anymore.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by fr_tz

I’ve seen you reference JuiceNet a few times so I wanted to make sure that you knew that the JuiceNet app is the older Enel app. The newer app is Enel x Way. It’s the one circled in the screenshot.

there was a guy either here or the 45e FB group that brought that up when I showcased my load-sharing setup a few months ago. he received an email from Enel X that he had to update to the new app by April this year, but he and many others on the web just complained how bad it was, so I never switched. my first JuiceBox went live Sept 2021, but I never received that email.

when I looked into those apps in the App Store, both show they were developed over 4y ago, so I’m not convinced the Enel X Way is ‘newer’, maybe just supported. plus, there’s reviews for it from 3y ago. when I went live in 2021, instructions stated to download EV JuiceNet. you may want to use that instead; I believe it’s better (even though I never used Enel X Way)

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by mobsync

Another feature I haven't seen discussed yet that is new with the 50e is that you can press the lock button on the key fob three times and pre-conditioning will start. You don't have to do it from your phone anymore.

oh that’s nice!

only some EU-based 45e could do that after programming the DIAMOND button on their key fob. U.S.-based 45e couldn’t because we have the PANIC button in lieu of that.

still, I assume the key fob requires close approximation to the vehicle to work? when I activate preconditioning, I’m nowhere near my vehicle, so the app would be best for me even if I had the 50e unless the fob works across long distances and through obstacles

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

oh that’s nice!

only some EU-based 45e could do that after programming the DIAMOND button on their key fob. U.S.-based 45e couldn’t because we have the PANIC button in lieu of that.

still, I assume the key fob requires close approximation to the vehicle to work? when I activate preconditioning, I’m nowhere near my vehicle, so the app would best for me even if I had the 50e.

It is so annoying since BMW added the Remote Start function to US key fobs with three presses of the BMW logo "lock" button. The same should have been extended to US eDrive vehicles for preconditioning.

[mobsync]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

oh that’s nice!

only some EU-based 45e could do that after programming the DIAMOND button on their key fob. U.S.-based 45e couldn’t because we have the PANIC button in lieu of that.

still, I assume the key fob requires close approximation to the vehicle to work? when I activate preconditioning, I’m nowhere near my vehicle, so the app would be best for me even if I had the 50e unless the fob works across long distances and through obstacles

yeah, I do find I'd rather use the key if I'm walking towards the car. Much easier to do that than grab your phone, unlock the screen, select the BMW app, etc.......

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by mobsync

yeah, I do find I'd rather use the key if I'm walking towards the car. Much easier to do that than grab your phone, unlock the screen, select the BMW app, etc.......

activating it as you walk towards the vehicle is moot; that’s not enough time to even properly climatize. preconditioning requires a bit of forethought; 10 mins is recommended, though I find 5 mins may suffice if the temp delta isn’t too wide

don't get me wrong, i'd use the key fob when the situation would allow, but doing it as i'm walking towards the car just seems pointless since i'm gonna start the vehicle (and HVAC) in a few seconds

[mobsync]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

activating it as you walk towards the vehicle is moot; that’s not enough time to even work. preconditioning requires a bit of forethought. 10 mins is recommended, though I find 5 mins may suffice if the temp delta isn’t too wide

I think it is. To me just getting the AC started is a big win vs doing so after sitting in the car and turning it on. Same way in the winter. The heated seats and steering wheel can warm up pretty quickly. If its an extremely hot or cold day, then yes you should use the app from a greater distance.

ETA- the best part about it is BMW has given us a choice.

[nZtiZia]

so far, that’s two 50e telematics reports confirming 20kWh usable capacity, not 25.7kWh as published

[akin67]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

so far, that’s two 50e telematics reports confirming 20kWh usable capacity, not 25.7kWh as published

Almost seems BMW is overly cautious for the US market. Using only 20kwh out of a 30kwh capacity battery. The non utilized portion is over 30%. If they utilized close to that published 80% of battery capacity, we should be able to get about 50 all-electric miles as opposed to 42 miles.