[SlowX6M]

Originally Posted by khal

Hi
I know your problem with your car was a long time but I just saw this today because I was planning to have the same colour, but how’s your car now after all is it good, and the problem was from the last how the car was washed. Please let me know if possible. Thanks

It has swirls now from the carwashes, but not as bad as that first carwash, they really did a number on it, they must have had sand on the rags, or maybe their water filtration system was bad.

But this type of paint and color is really too fragile, you're better off getting a white or a gray one, I have a 2012 Space Gray E70, and you really can't see any swirls in the paint after 10 years.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by jo2134

The good news is that the swirls are on the PPF and not the actual paint. Anyone know if the swirls are removable from PPF?

Should be the ole "self healing" but depends on the quality of the PPF and some aren't gonna come out.

Basically you can try a blow dryer or heat gun, obviously being very careful not to overheat it. 3-5 quick cycles of heating should do it if it's decent ppf and the swirls aren't too bad. Obviously do a decon wash first and check the LSP after to see if water is still beading

[Samurai of 2day]

I have a '22 X6MC in TB2 and I've kept my paint swirl free by using a touchless car wash stall in Coney Island to get the bulk of salt removed during the winter months.

Other than that, I will either hand wash myself using micro fiber towels and I have a mobile detailing service that comes to our job 2-3 times throughout the year for about 5-6 other car enthusiasts and have our cars pampered while we go about our daily tasks.

Many have said it in this thread, best way to keep dark paint swirl free is hand washing only (no drive thru wash racks) and the occasional spa day for your car.

I haven't done PPF, but I hope the OP had had a much better experience keeping it clean after completing that process a few months ago.

[jo2134]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Should be the ole "self healing" but depends on the quality of the PPF and some aren't gonna come out.

Basically you can try a blow dryer or heat gun, obviously being very careful not to overheat it. 3-5 quick cycles of heating should do it if it's decent ppf and the swirls aren't too bad. Obviously do a decon wash first and check the LSP after to see if water is still beading

Read this somewhere else as well. Will test on an inconspicuous spot.

Thanks!

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by jo2134

Read this somewhere else as well. Will test on an inconspicuous spot.

Thanks!

yeah, keep us updated and maybe some before & after pics - always good to get a record of people's experiences.

thanks!

[SlowX6M]

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

I have a '22 X6MC in TB2 and I've kept my paint swirl free by using a touchless car wash stall in Coney Island to get the bulk of salt removed during the winter months.

Other than that, I will either hand wash myself using micro fiber towels and I have a mobile detailing service that comes to our job 2-3 times throughout the year for about 5-6 other car enthusiasts and have our cars pampered while we go about our daily tasks.

Many have said it in this thread, best way to keep dark paint swirl free is hand washing only (no drive thru wash racks) and the occasional spa day for your car.

I haven't done PPF, but I hope the OP had had a much better experience keeping it clean after completing that process a few months ago.

Small world - you mean the one at the BP gas station? I too use it sometimes, but it barely washes anything. I bought my own pressure washer, and when its not too cold I just blast the salt off myself.

[Samurai of 2day]

Originally Posted by SlowX6M

Small world - you mean the one at the BP gas station? I too use it sometimes, but it barely washes anything. I bought my own pressure washer, and when its not too cold I just blast the salt off myself.

That's the one!

I agree, it's definitely far from a detailing center, but it has been the best option in the general area that I can find for salt removal after snow.

Because I park in a garage after work, I usually give it a quick wipe down after that wash after parking.

I hope the power washer works out well for you. I can understand how frustrating it can be for a brand new car to have those swirls so prominent in the sunlight, especially with such a beautiful color such as TB2.

[SlowX6M]

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

That's the one!

I agree, it's definitely far from a detailing center, but it has been the best option in the general area that I can find for salt removal after snow.

Because I park in a garage after work, I usually give it a quick wipe down after that wash after parking.

I hope the power washer works out well for you. I can understand how frustrating it can be for a brand new car to have those swirls so prominent in the sunlight, especially with such a beautiful color such as TB2.

Well, I have taken it to the car wash on McDonald Ave several times, and it has swirls, but normal swirls that I can live with. The very first wash that caused drastic swirls happened at the wash on Stillwell Ave, so avoid that place.

I'm probably going to powerwash my cars, including the underbody, over the weekend to get rid of all the winter salt.

[jo2134]

Originally Posted by SlowX6M

Well, I have taken it to the car wash on McDonald Ave several times, and it has swirls, but normal swirls that I can live with. The very first wash that caused drastic swirls happened at the wash on Stillwell Ave, so avoid that place.

I'm probably going to powerwash my cars, including the underbody, over the weekend to get rid of all the winter salt.

Do you mean The Wash Experts? Nice place but line can get obnoxiously long. People will literally wait 2+ hours. Must be nice to have that much free time

[Samurai of 2day]

Originally Posted by jo2134

Do you mean The Wash Experts? Nice place but line can get obnoxiously long. People will literally wait 2+ hours. Must be nice to have that much free time

Sorry, maybe I've described the wrong wash stall.

The one I'm taking about is a power wash system only, with no personnel standing by to hand dry, no track to put your car in.

It's a simple bay / garage wash stall for one car at a time, that power washes your car while you sit in the stall for about 5-7 mins. Located right behind the BP gas station on cropsey and mermaid.

It has a card reader outside that I believe the manger disabled, so I have to go to the counter inside, pay the clerk by swiping the card for 15 bucks for a quick spray wash and wax application. When it's over, I come out with a wet car, but no swirls since there's no track to scuff wheels or people using towels used on countless cars before mine that day.

I just have dry it myself when I get to my Apt garage about a 10 min drive away.

[jo2134]

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

Sorry, maybe I've described the wrong wash stall.

The one I'm taking about is a power wash system only, with no personnel standing by to hand dry, no track to put your car in.

It's a simple bay / garage wash stall for one car at a time, that power washes your car while you sit in the stall for about 5-7 mins. Located right behind the BP gas station on cropsey and mermaid.

It has a card reader outside that I believe the manger disabled, so I have to go to the counter inside, pay the clerk by swiping the card for 15 bucks for a quick spray wash and wax application. When it's over, I come out with a wet car, but no swirls since there's no track to scuff wheels or people using towels used on countless cars before mine that day.

I just have dry it myself when I get to my Apt garage about a 10 min drive away.

Will have to check this out. What are the hours?

[SlowX6M]

If you go the Wash Experts, its better to go on a workday morning, when there is no line. During the weekend and afternoon hours, the line is insane.

[Samurai of 2day]

Originally Posted by jo2134

Will have to check this out. What are the hours?

I'll verify the next time I go there, but I believe it's 24 hours, as long as temps aren't below freezing.

the longest I've ever waited was behind 1 car. Usually, I'm not waiting at all after 8pm, which is my normal weekly routine during the winter months

[SlowX6M]

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

I'll verify the next time I go there, but I believe it's 24 hours, as long as temps aren't below freezing.

the longest I've ever waited was behind 1 car. Usually, I'm not waiting at all after 8pm, which is my normal weekly routine during the winter months

Funny story from almost 20 years ago. My wife took her car to that wash, and she did not align the car properly when she drove in, and so the display told her to back up. As she started to back up, she hit the overhead door that was partially closed with the roof of the car - she couldn't see it because it was really foggy inside the bay, the door fell and crashed on her roof, she panicked and hit the gas instead of the brake, jumped over the curb, right into the snow covered grass.

Needless to say, the car was pretty much totalled.

[Samurai of 2day]

Originally Posted by SlowX6M

Funny story from almost 20 years ago. My wife took her car to that wash, and she did not align the car properly when she drove in, and so the display told her to back up. As she started to back up, she hit the overhead door that was partially closed with the roof of the car - she couldn't see it because it was really foggy inside the bay, the door fell and crashed on her roof, she panicked and hit the gas instead of the brake, jumped over the curb, right into the snow covered grass.

Needless to say, the car was pretty much totalled.

Ouch! Hopefully she wasn't injured at all, during that incident.

Nowadays, cars are packed with so many sensors and automatic reaction safety features, hopefully something like that wouldn't happen to a modern car.

20 years ago, it definitely took more "skill" and experience paired with spacial awareness to navigate tight spaces and roadways found in the area, lol

[robersoj1]

Have any of you guys tried a car air blower to prevent the swirl getting in your paint. I ordered a X7 with TB paint and would hate to get paint swirls.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by robersoj1

Have any of you guys tried a car air blower to prevent the swirl getting in your paint. I ordered a X7 with TB paint and would hate to get paint swirls.

I purchased one by BLO, but swirls mostly occur while washing the car due to the dirt trapped in the clothes/sponges, so that part of your technique should be refined

[QdaNoob]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

I purchased one by BLO, but swirls mostly occur while washing the car due to the dirt trapped in the clothes/sponges, so that part of your technique should be refined

Here's an option. My cost is about $55 before shipping and it works if you follow the instructions. And it's made by a reputable company,3M. I use on all the car after a PPF install. Just a suggestion for what it's worth.

[Elle BMW]

has anyone tried, or have an opinion on the bmw ceramic coating that they offer?

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by Elle BMW

has anyone tried, or have an opinion on the bmw ceramic coating that they offer?

inferior product (from experience)

[newtobeemer]

I don't see anyone mentioning Zurich Shield? I'm about to put a deposit down on a Tanzanite Blue, and the dealer suggested I get Zurich Guard for that color. I said no, because everything I've read thus far sar it was just a useless profit-maker for BMW. But, from what I'm reading here, I should be concerned about the darker paint colors.

Will Zurich Shield protect against paint swirling in car washes or better to go with what you are all suggesting which seems like more expensive after-market treatments?

[Alan l.]

https://www.bbb.org/us/tx/schertz/pr...034/complaints

5min read tells me to avoid at all cost. If you want protection for your paint then get PPF done.