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So, 68 kg more for the M2C vs. M2 LCI. Add the performance break and the M2C is still more heavier: 68+15 = 83 kg !!!
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If you don’t want the weight then don’t add the option. It is a novel concept isn’t it, who would think larger calipers and rotors weigh more on every single car you add them too. If you would rather have less braking performance and less weight...don’t add them. You want the increased braking performance and don’t mind the weight...then add them. If you want larger brakes and less weight, source oem M4 CCB rotors for the upgraded 2NH calipers. Every option is available for people in Europe since the brakes aren’t standard. Last edited by hellrotm; 05-22-2018 at 10:52 AM.. |
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They should come standard by the way. That would be amazing. Last edited by hellrotm; 05-22-2018 at 10:53 AM.. |
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05-22-2018, 11:09 AM | #96 | |
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Personally, BlackJetE90 if you want to hear the least kvetching , then you should root for the 2nh brakes to be a no cost added option ( just like the moonroof option vs carbon fiber roof on M3/M4) so that buyers can decide what setup they want and you won't have to tell people not to complain... they can have 19s for life with the big silvers vs stock brakes which have the flexibility of using 18s for track tires or winter tires. The entirety of the united states sees enough variation in climate that this really is the most logical choice. Are 19" snow tires readily available? Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 05-22-2018 at 01:10 PM.. |
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05-26-2018, 08:18 AM | #99 | |
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For my intended use mostly on Norwegian roads, I believe the stock brakes would be more than sufficient. I don’t expect any 'voooaaam' noise in our speed limits… For track use, I may have to change to track pads anyways. The stock brakes also enables me to use 18” wheels for the winter. |
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05-26-2018, 09:19 AM | #100 | |
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A race track, on the other hand, is bloody straining for the brakes because you brake much more frequently and more intense in a short period of time. No time to cool down. Hence, the importance of cool down laps. Mountains got their unique feature when compared to the Autobahn and race tracks: lower speed (2nd/3rd gear dancing) but high gradient levels (and different pressure levels for tires because of height changes) + (possible) oncoming traffic + road surfaces of all sorts (good to bad) + temperature & humidity variation: the brakes are strained when giving it the spurs up/down a mountain from hairpin to hairpin. Especially during 'spirited' downhill stints, for obvious reasons: required brake power to reduce the Newtons deployed to properly negotiate the hairpin. Especially in the mountains - apart from the highest level of self-restraint - high quality brakes & tires are of prime importance for your safety and other's safety. Way up there, you definitely don't want to run out of talent & tarmac (totaling the car and yourself) or run into another road user.
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I agree. Safety first. For me it is not about breaking records. You are making me think twice about my decision. It sounds like you are actually missing some stopping power. I thought the standard brakes would be safe and sufficient, even for spirited driving in the mountains (using common sense on public roads). |
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05-26-2018, 01:24 PM | #102 | |
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But if BMW would have offered 2NH (M Sport Brakes) back in 2016, I would have ordered them. That's why I consider getting the M Performance brakes for my car (available at the end of this year). I prefer the improved braking over the extra weight of those.
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They both are 400x36 2p Floating Front, but they are not the exact same disc assembly due to the difference in rotor offset. The calipers are also slightly different. Using the F10M Blue Brembo MN6 Radial Mount as the baseline, these are the differences for the other similar variations: F10M MCCB Gold MN6 - Titanium Pistons, additional 5mm Caliper Mounting Surface Length. F8X MCCB Gold MN6- Same as above with Axial Mount Caliper Adapter Bracket F87 M2C Grey/Red MN6 -Same Caliper Housing and bracket as F8x MCCB, but with Stainless Pistons. |
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05-26-2018, 04:44 PM | #108 |
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I don't care about the track, that twin turbo motor with its GT-R-like power potential; those BBK brakes are welcomed on the public streets... #ICantDrive55
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05-26-2018, 04:58 PM | #109 | |
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I have noticed differences in pedal feel, initial bite, and other modulation related characteristics between stock and upgraded brakes, but I doubt it affects braking distance of the first couple emergency stops. |
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