[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Snave01

Do they electronically limit the engines in most if not all models? On my motorcycle (BMW S1000XR) the top performance mode was disabled and RPMs were capped until the first service where it's unlocked.

No, not at all. The only started the RPM limitations on the S68.

[matowi]

Show us your order once you make up your mind

PS. I don’t envy you going through this thread with everyone basically praising their preferred choice (mine is the M60i btw )

PSS. It’s generally a wise choice to follow one’s wife’s advice/ preference

[TechKid]

M60i is smoother in all aspects. Whoever said the 40i is smoother has never driven an M60i. Power delivery makes effortless movement. If money is not an issue and you want the best, M60i all day. It’s the best all around X5 you can buy bar none. X5M is awesome, but there are some drawbacks one may not like. Some of these are: 1) seats are extremely bolstered and may get uncomfortable on a road trip which leads to 2) X5M (with DAP) does not include Highway Assistant (over 40mph handsfree driving).

If I were you, I would order an M60i with all the options and not look back. Everyone will love the car. From the effortless power delivery to the glowing speakers, your friends will be jealous! 😄

[jad03060]

FWIW, I don’t miss the loss of kick to open, but then, I don’t have children or am generally carrying things as I walk up to open the rear. The towing package is worth it to me, and I think would enhance the resale value whenever I decide to get rid of it.

Both engines are smooth and quiet…most of the sound is done with speakers…the turbos, catalytic converters and mufflers squash a lot of the sound, then, there are noise limits in some markets that forced some of those changes. The true M version lets some of that natural sound out, though.

If you sell your vehicle prior to the factory warranty expiring, reliability probably isn’t an issue to you as much as it might be long-term, but the V8 will cost more long-term if you do decide to keep it and cost more in normal operations. If you can afford it, it probably doesn’t make a bit of difference, but I tend to prefer to spend money on things I want, rather than need…but, if you want it, can afford it, I suppose why not!

Saudi said they are going to ramp their previously restricted oil production up, so the supply should increase, and put pressure to lower the price. For how long, nobody knows. That should help, at least a little.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

The V8 is crazy smooth too. Almost too smooth. Sometimes I wonder if it's on it's so smooth and quiet. I wish it were less smooth and more rowdy.

The Hellcat motors have the right amount of smooth and rowdy to me. They feel mechanical and gritty and never let you forget they're there. The N63 just fades into the background silently and smoothly making power until you step on it, then it just makes a lot more more, smoothly, and still fairly quietly.

I think it’s smooth but it’s definitely not as quiet as the i6…

V8 is a wonderful engine too- all you wrote sounds about right.

[BMW and me]

it is very simple,unless you drive on german autobahn without speed limit the 40i give enough performance, but after maximum two weeks of driving 40i you will regret and you never will be happy with the car .

[JL Fitzpatrick]

Just my $0.02.

We ordered a 2025 X5 xDrive 40i to replace an awesome 2015 X5 xDrive 35d, and yes, I ordered the 40i partly because the fuel economy with 35d was so damn good and I was looking for something comparable. Being happy with that N57 turbo diesel, and living in Southern California where I could run vastly superior renewable diesel exclusively, I would have loved to get the newer B57 turbo diesel, but learned to appreciate the B58 the more I studied it and understanding it uses the same block as the B57 as part of their modular motor program.

To me, the LCI B58 is a great fit in the LCI X5, hell the pre-LCI B58 xDrive turned in a 4.8 second 0-60 time according to Car & Driver. Sure the V8 would be more fun, and although I'm still breaking her in with less than 900 miles on the Odometer, I have not yet found a situation where I'm wanting more power and the fuel economy is still incredible for a nearly 5K lb. vehicle that runs this damn good.

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by KProX5

I would appreciate input on the 2025 M60i vs 40i. We are moving back to the X5 for a daily driver after several disappointing years in a Q7 and are struggling between between the two. Our M4 convertible is my favorite vehicle to drive, but it is not the most functional with kids/dogs and will spend most of the winter in the garage.

The 40i was more impressive when test driving than I remember but there is still a notable difference between the 6 and V8. The local dealership has a M60i with pretty much everything we are looking for and we can get a good deal on it. The 40i SAVs around us will force us to compromise more in the options/packages we want. Leather vs Sensafin is a whole different issue.

Is the M60i overkill in a vehicle that won't get driven to its full potential 80% of the time (even though my wife thinks I will push it 24/7)? The inline six is incredibly reliable and the newer S68 in the M60i doesn't have nearly as much background information. Cost isn't a major concern, but reliability is important.

If you are asking this question on this forum 100% get the most fully loaded M60i, or drive the X5M and see if you prefer that. You will never be happy until you get a fully loaded top of the line. Don’t make this mistake and regret it. When one says cost isn’t a major concern, you have to go all the way….I am supposing this will be all cash. Right?

[jad03060]

FWIW, when I bought my X5, I was prepared to pay cash for it, but they were offering 0.9% interest…it’s easy to earn more than that, so I financed it. Set up auto payments, and forget about it and make your money work for you. At 1.99%, in today’s market, you can still earn more, but after you pay taxes on what you might earn, it might be a little closer to break even. A cash outlay isn’t always the smartest action. I wish they’d let me use a credit card for the purchase, and I’d come out ahead, but my dealer won’t because of the fee they have to pay to the bank.

I drove the V8, and didn’t find it compelling enough to sway my purchase decision…everyone’s got different priorities. I don’t regret my purchase in the least. You might, and only you can decide.

[KProX5]

Originally Posted by jad03060

FWIW, when I bought my X5, I was prepared to pay cash for it, but they were offering 0.9% interest…it’s easy to earn more than that, so I financed it. Set up auto payments, and forget about it and make your money work for you. At 1.99%, in today’s market, you can still earn more, but after you pay taxes on what you might earn, it might be a little closer to break even. A cash outlay isn’t always the smartest action. I wish they’d let me use a credit card for the purchase, and I’d come out ahead, but my dealer won’t because of the fee they have to pay to the bank.

I drove the V8, and didn’t find it compelling enough to sway my purchase decision…everyone’s got different priorities. I don’t regret my purchase in the least. You might, and only you can c decide.

My thought process is the same. I can make the 1.99% apr work for me, so financing is worth it. If everything gets close, I am going with the V8 for several reasons.

[BMWbiker]

As far as the 6 vs. the V8 is concerned, just keep in mind that an X5 40i will out-accelerate almost any muscle car from my childhood, and the M60i will out-accelerate almost any exotic from my childhood. That is to say, they’ll both be excellent. Furthermore, they’ll both get much better gas mileage, and be far more reliable.

We live in a golden age of cars right now.

Enjoy whatever you buy.

[KProX5]

Originally Posted by FCX5

If you are asking this question on this forum 100% get the most fully loaded M60i, or drive the X5M and see if you prefer that. You will never be happy until you get a fully loaded top of the line. Don’t make this mistake and regret it. When one says cost isn’t a major concern, you have to go all the way….I am supposing this will be all cash. Right?

Can pay cash but the low apr works in my favor to finance. Totally agree that I will regret not going all in.

[RNorb]

One of the real benefits of the M60i is the rear wheel steering. It's not available on the other X5 models (in the US) and it makes the car really nimble and "light on its feet" both for low and high speed driving.

[CR290Guy]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

I did it with my wife's 2019 X5 40i. I learned the tricks on how to get the best deal on this forum.

I can't remember exactly, but I think I got 6 or 7% off MSRP. They still charge shipping and destination charges, but in exchange, you get an incredible experience in Spartanburg; factory tour, track time in another X5 with your engine, right seat time with a pro driver, hotel for a night, dinner, breakfast, and the fun of driving your new baby home. In my case it was to California. We took 3 weeks getting back.

I would do it again in a heartbeat. You just need not be in a rush. This way there is zero compromise. You get exactly what you want and nothing you don't want.

You should search Performance Center Delivery threads on this forum. All the info you need is there.

Go for it!

Hotels and meals are no longer included in the PCD. That’s not an expensive area although those hotels near the plant tend to stay booked. Uber and the hotel’s shuttle are your friends.

Big, big fun regardless!

One caution: doing the PCD will likely add a week or two to your wait time. They will not schedule your delivery until the car is in production thus the delay. Ours would have been delivered during that waiting time! Not a big deal - the experience was worth the wait.

[MystroX5]

Unless you are on a budget, I can’t believe comparing the two is even an issue to question.

[CR290Guy]

Originally Posted by BMWbiker

As far as the 6 vs. the V8 is concerned, just keep in mind that an X5 40i will out-accelerate almost any muscle car from my childhood, and the M60i will out-accelerate almost any exotic from my childhood. That is to say, they’ll both be excellent. Furthermore, they’ll both get much better gas mileage, and be far more reliable.

We live in a golden age of cars right now.

Enjoy whatever you buy.

Ok Grandpa. Settle down.

My favorite car growing up was the 1969 Dodge Charger R/T 440 V-8 Magnum. We had a Charger but not the 440. 0 to 60 was 6 seconds. The 40i is 5 seconds. Your point is spot-on.

Funny story: the old man built a tent trailer and we towed that trailer all over the US when we were kids. My dad always got us on the road at some ungodly hour and my mom took the first driving shift. She was an RN and worked 11-7 so she was used to those hours.

IIRC, we were driving up to Michigan to enter Canada and go around Lake Superior. Car was packed, trailer was attach.

Anyway, us three kids were in the back asleep. We were maybe 8, 9 and 10. The old man napped in a defensive position - one hand pushed against the dash.

Mom hit a rough stop in the road and woke my dad and I up. He looked over at the speedo and I’ll never ever forget those muttered words:

“Dammit Phyllis, slow down. You’re doing 90.”

[PunsGalore]

Originally Posted by JL Fitzpatrick

Just my $0.02.

We ordered a 2025 X5 xDrive 40i to replace an awesome 2015 X5 xDrive 35d, and yes, I ordered the 40i partly because the fuel economy with 35d was so damn good and I was looking for something comparable. Being happy with that N57 turbo diesel, and living in Southern California where I could run vastly superior renewable diesel exclusively, I would have loved to get the newer B57 turbo diesel, but learned to appreciate the B58 the more I studied it and understanding it uses the same block as the B57 as part of their modular motor program.

To me, the LCI B58 is a great fit in the LCI X5, hell the pre-LCI B58 xDrive turned in a 4.8 second 0-60 time according to Car & Driver. Sure the V8 would be more fun, and although I'm still breaking her in with less than 900 miles on the Odometer, I have not yet found a situation where I'm wanting more power and the fuel economy is still incredible for a nearly 5K lb. vehicle that runs this damn good.

Exactly

[LDT]

Originally Posted by BMWbiker

As far as the 6 vs. the V8 is concerned, just keep in mind that an X5 40i will out-accelerate almost any muscle car from my childhood, and the M60i will out-accelerate almost any exotic from my childhood. That is to say, they’ll both be excellent. Furthermore, they’ll both get much better gas mileage, and be far more reliable.

We live in a golden age of cars right now.

Enjoy whatever you buy.

Edit: The M60i will take down (out accelerate) 96 out of 100 cars you see on the road today.

[SteVTEC]

Originally Posted by JL Fitzpatrick

Just my $0.02.

We ordered a 2025 X5 xDrive 40i to replace an awesome 2015 X5 xDrive 35d, and yes, I ordered the 40i partly because the fuel economy with 35d was so damn good and I was looking for something comparable. Being happy with that N57 turbo diesel, and living in Southern California where I could run vastly superior renewable diesel exclusively, I would have loved to get the newer B57 turbo diesel, but learned to appreciate the B58 the more I studied it and understanding it uses the same block as the B57 as part of their modular motor program.

To me, the LCI B58 is a great fit in the LCI X5, hell the pre-LCI B58 xDrive turned in a 4.8 second 0-60 time according to Car & Driver. Sure the V8 would be more fun, and although I'm still breaking her in with less than 900 miles on the Odometer, I have not yet found a situation where I'm wanting more power and the fuel economy is still incredible for a nearly 5K lb. vehicle that runs this damn good.

We had a 2012 E70 X5 35d for six years and loved it. The B58 is a great upgrade from one of those in that it will match the efficiency, but without some of the complexity, and the volatility of diesel fuel pricing. I was able to achieve 26-28 mpg highway with our 35d with ease, and can't believe the G05 40i can match that all while being a ton faster. Still miss the massive wave of diesel torque, but the electric boost from the mild hybrid system makes up for it.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by CR290Guy

Hotels and meals are no longer included in the PCD. That’s not an expensive area although those hotels near the plant tend to stay booked. Uber and the hotel’s shuttle are your friends.

Big, big fun regardless!

One caution: doing the PCD will likely add a week or two to your wait time. They will not schedule your delivery until the car is in production thus the delay. Ours would have been delivered during that waiting time! Not a big deal - the experience was worth the wait.

Thanks for the correction. We went in 2019. I didn't check current PCD terms before I posted.

[eelnoraa]

I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe my comment isn't relavent by now. But isn't this a budget problem? both 40i and 60i are overkill for the purpose it serves. BMW is an overkill. So it isn't a "need", it is a "want". If affordability ( $ wise, and maintenance wise) allows for M60i, why 40i?

[matowi]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe my comment isn't relavent by now. But isn't this a budget problem? both 40i and 60i are overkill for the purpose it serves. BMW is an overkill. So it isn't a "need", it is a "want". If affordability ( $ wise, and maintenance wise) allows for M60i, why 40i?

That sums it up perfectly. Nothing to add