[MontyB1]

I’d just like to point out that I can post a link about F1 that might be useful and informative without resorting to stupid, childish irrelevant information.

See it’s possible. I’m aware some in the thread appear to have not made pubity yet, but maybe just once it might be nice to had a little grown up response and debate; not have every post like it looks as if toys are been thrown from a pram. FFS

https://www.fia.com/news/statement-f...Rrrh8En_Wq1i0Y

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

HAM will be VERY HARD to beat in 2022 , as we witnessed how fast HAM's RocketShip is !
In other words : The Mercedes 2021 Warp-Speed PU is also the base for the 2022 Mercedes RocketShip .

Was the corrupt race director blind in Lap 1-Turn 6 incident ? While HAM overtook 50 meters off track with advantage ?

Race one (1) at Bahrain : MAX ran with a half wheel off track while he overtook HAM . But MAX had to give the lead back to HAM .
HAM ran at Bahrein 29 times off track without a penalty ..HAM stole the victory at Bahrein but that was just fine for the corrupt race director ..

The brown envelopes were piling onto Mikey for that one,.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Useless to say , F1 was nearly dead , buried , ashes to ashes ..

This is what MAX has done in ordinary families ! F1 is back alive and more than ever before ...

Like I said and the 007 film...Never say Never Again. 1

[Killed by Death]

Man, as the year went on, I thought you hammy's were bad with the personal attacks on certain members. And now its devolved into baseless accusations of bribery and corruption? Geez!!!

Sorry, it should say losers not loser

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The Emotions !

Orange is the color, F1 is the game

[MontyB1]

For those that want to read what other F1 drivers thought about the final few laps and how odd it was from normal procedure some new info in the link below.

No view of what Merc are going to do yet, tomorrow the protest will lapse or they will invoke the formal referral.

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...laps-abu-dhabi

[M5Rick]

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[Artemis]

(source: here)

[Humdizzle]

looks like they are keeping hamilton (and the car) away from any presentations right now. not even going to bring to the constructors champion presentation.

https://www.racefans.net/2021/12/15/...-wait-goes-on/

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

looks like they are keeping hamilton (and the car) away from any presentations right now. not even going to bring to the constructors champion presentation.

https://www.racefans.net/2021/12/15/...-wait-goes-on/

Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug...You think HAAS or others would skip this honor?

Man up, take your defeat and move on!!!

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by StatenEye

You wouldn't last a second on a trading floor in ibanking if this is considered practice.

Practice for dealing with idiots…Not saying it’s practical training for all areas lol, but attorneys in IP are (sometimes) like this when they are treading in unknown tech. They’ll try to argue up is down for their team.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Jiren

Even mommy knows her son is a paper champ

https://www.planetf1.com/news/maxs-m...ger-abu-dhabi/

As with so many things in life, it is not the strongest of the species who survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.

The F1 Mercedes AMG car was for many consecutive years the strongest of the field and Hamilton had/has most credentials and accolades of all drivers competing. An invincible combination, at least on paper. But still, despite the excellent team, tools, tricks of the trade and tons of experience, he was outsmarted and pipped by a driver 12 years his junior who managed to get the world driver's title that Hamilton and his team had taken for granted. Hamilton and his team underestimated their main rival. The last lap at the Abu Dhabi race was emblematic for the 2022 season, a pars pro toto: closer than close can be, but not enough for Hamilton. The 2022 season was not just 1 race - it was preceeded by 21 others. Actually, Hamilton did not "lose" the F1 WDC in the Abu Dhabi race - no, he simply "fell short" getting it.

[M Hybrid V8]

Originally Posted by Artemis

As with so many things in life, it is not the strongest of the species who survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.

The F1 Mercedes AMG car was for many consecutive years the strongest of the field and Hamilton had/has most credentials and accolades of all drivers competing. An invincible combination, at least on paper. But still, despite the excellent team, tools, tricks of the trade and tons of experience, he was outsmarted and pipped by a driver 12 years his junior who managed to get the world driver's title that Hamilton and his team had taken for granted. Hamilton and his team underestimated their main rival. The last lap at the Abu Dhabi race was emblematic for the 2022 season, a pars pro toto: closer than close can be, but not enough for Hamilton. The 2022 season was not just 1 race - it was preceeded by 21 others. Actually, Hamilton did not "lose" the F1 WDC in the Abu Dhabi race - no, he simply "fell short" getting it.

How did Max outsmart Hamilton? Neither Max nor Lewis are responsible for what Masi does. Had Max dominated the entire race only for Masi for literally give the race to Lewis, I don't think Lewis would claim he "outsmarted" Max. Even the comments from the other drivers show how confused they were with Masi's decisions, it wasn't something anyone ever predicted for experienced. It's probably the most corrupt moment in any mainstream sport, it's hard to recall another sporting incident that tops it.

But the damage has been done and life moves on. FIA has already begun making changes to save face and try to reestablish some integrity.

[M Hybrid V8]

Masi should not have dictator-like power. If regulation 15.3 gives him FULL control to use the safety car as he pleases, that means he doesn't even need an accident or any sort of incident to justify the use of it. If there is driver with a huge lead and the crowd is bored with the lack of a battle, Masi could exercise his right to deploy the safety car with the sole intent of bunching the field back up to give others a chance to win. That scenario is just as ridiculous as what happened in Abu Dhabi. Is that acceptable in sports? Most people emphatically think it's not acceptable.

If Mercedes doesn't withdraw their appeal, maybe we'll get an answer to what lengths the race director can go to directly manipulate the outcome of a race as he sees fit.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by M2CS

How did Max outsmart Hamilton? Neither Max nor Lewis are responsible for what Masi does. Had Max dominated the entire race only for Masi for literally give the race to Lewis, I don't think Lewis would claim he "outsmarted" Max. Even the comments from the other drivers show how confused they were with Masi's decisions, it wasn't something anyone ever predicted for experienced. It's probably the most corrupt moment in any mainstream sport, it's hard to recall another sporting incident that tops it.

But the damage has been done and life moves on. FIA has already begun making changes to save face and try to reestablish some integrity.

Double champ Mika Haakinen says it was the correct decision from Masi to let them fight it out with the back markers out of the way and it's tough luck for Ham he was on the tyres he was.
The telling words from Masi were that it's a motor race and ready to go with the pace car not needed any more, time just ran out for Ham.

[M Hybrid V8]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Double champ Mika Haakinen says it was the correct decision from Masi to let them fight it out with the back markers out of the way and it's tough luck for Ham he was on the tyres he was.
The telling words from Masi were that it's a motor race and ready to go with the pace car not needed any more, time just ran out for Ham.

It's not necessarily a problem to make the decision to allow Max and Ham to fight it out, it's just there wasn't enough time and Masi didn't choose to red flag the race which would have allowed at least some sort of fair competition. Was Masi not allowed to drop the red flag? If not, why not? It seems he had the power to override all rules and do whatever he pleased. If the goal was for a "motor racing" finish, the red flag was the proper way to set up that finish given the circumstances.

Changing the way safety cars are handled without notifying teams exactly what change was taking place to allow them at least some time to react and make a decision was terrible because that prevented Mercedes from believing they had an option to pit without forfeiting the race. That's not a matter of getting lucky or unlucky, that's a race official making a direct decision to provide a team with a huge advantage and influence the outcome of the race.

Had Mercedes gave up track position and pitted only for the race to end behind the safety car, it would suck but that outcome would be 100% legitimate under the rulebook and Masi couldn't be blamed for anything.

[M5Rick]

[QUOTE=///M Power-Belgium;28364319]Useless to say , F1 was nearly dead , buried , ashes to ashes ..

This is what MAX has done in ordinary families ! F1 is back alive and more than ever before ...

*Merc withdrawing protest and dijon has 'proposed' that there will be...more rules from next year

[M5Rick]

Knighthood for Ham?? Not on your nelly.
https://grandpx.news/ecclestone-hits...ication-clicks

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M2CS

How did Max outsmart Hamilton?

Some interesting remarks here ("A changing of the guard? Our writers give their verdict on Max Verstappen’s title-winning 2021 season").

[MontyB1]

https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/sta...515719680?s=20

View from the wife (Susie Wolff) is in, no news on the appeal.

[Artemis]

Breaking news: Mercedes AMG has withdrawn its appeal ("we hereby withdraw our appeal").

2021 classification is final.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MercedesA...19870680125441

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by StatenEye

Imagine Americans having to teach you the difference between someone being Dutch and Belgian hahah.

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Are you kidding mate ?!?!
I recruited Dutch people at the company , I even have Dutch friends .

The Belgians tolerate a lot more than the Dutch ..
In other words : In the Netherlands the people would kick your A$$ for your personal humiliating statements !

Carry on ...

For example : From last weekend ,This is a "MERCEDES ML" in the Netherlands"

=> https://www.autoblog.nl/nieuws/vanda...tappen-2959906

Originally Posted by StatenEye

Try doing this in NY lol.

Your statement really s@cks mate !
Your place in NY has 'nothing to do with the topic ..

Advice :
Continue with a statement that at least makes sense ...

Have a nice day !