[Deckiea]

Originally Posted by Golfjunky59

Don’t know how individuals are picking up their vehicles, I also have a week 33 build and it still says recall. X6 40i.

My boss picked up his iX on Friday.

[wilbmw]

Originally Posted by Golfjunky59

Don’t know how individuals are picking up their vehicles, I also have a week 33 build and it still says recall. X6 40i.

Same here as of today.. status was changed to Awaiting Carrier Assignment last Sat and recall is still there. Production date Aug 14. Will see if the recall will get cleared this week or not by the time it arrives at the dealership in SF Bay Area.

[xkuclone]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

That is not true at all since it was not an issue in April.

When I input my VIN, this is what it says. So wasn't it issued in Feb?

Recall Campaign No.
24V-104

Status
Remedy not available

Issued
FEB 12, 2024

Last Updated
Sep 09, 2024

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by xkuclone

When I input my VIN, this is what it says. So wasn't it issued in Feb?

Recall Campaign No.
24V-104

Status
Remedy not available

Issued
FEB 12, 2024

Last Updated
Sep 09, 2024

No, the recall in February was for vehicles produced through October of 23. It wasn't until August that the recall was amended to include vehicles after the original clear date.

[pascat]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

No, the recall in February was for vehicles produced through October of 23. It wasn't until August that the recall was amended to include vehicles after the original clear date.

One would assume that after being alerted of the brake booster defects for the production period up to October 2023, BMW would have been very vigilant about brake boosters produced after the October ‘23 date (no matter how much the provider of those parts claimed they were now fixed).

BMW needs to explain how they became aware of the persisting problem only because customers started reporting new failures in June (prompting the August amended recall), rather than proactively thru their own quality verification process focused on the brake booster (a process that should have been going on since at least February ‘24).

[GrokuE7]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

No, the recall in February was for vehicles produced through October of 23. It wasn't until August that the recall was amended to include vehicles after the original clear date.

That's the recall campaign number that's being referenced when you put your vin in on the BMW recall site and the NHTSA site. Am I missing something?

[malvern_man]

Originally Posted by Dazio

My dealer advised me against a new order ( earliest December), he expects mine to be fixed by the beginning of October (the earliest). The issue to me is the lack of guidance and real information.

My dealer told me October too, and that it would be fixed at port before being delivered to the dealership.

[analogue]

Originally Posted by GrokuE7

That's the recall campaign number that's being referenced when you put your vin in on the BMW recall site and the NHTSA site. Am I missing something?

It is the same recall.

When announced in February it applied to around 79k cars in this country.

Then in August they expanded the same recall to apply to a total of 278k cars. The recall is the same, it was simply amended to include ~200k more cars built after they thought the problem was corrected.

If you have one of the ~200k cars, they didn't believe you were at risk until they started to get warranty claims in June for the same failing part in cars that were built after the original recall date. That made them reassess the problem and expand the recall to include the additional cars in August as they outlined in the chronology report.

The recall information online is a bit misleading because it only shows the original recall date in February. It omits the nuance that your specific car may not have been added to this recall until August unless you read all the posted documents. Cue the irate people who think they should have been told in February about a problem BMW didn't know existed in their specific car until sometime between June and August.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by GrokuE7

That's the recall campaign number that's being referenced when you put your vin in on the BMW recall site and the NHTSA site. Am I missing something?

Yes, that is correct. There is only one recall. It was originally issued in February and updated in August.

[pascat]

Originally Posted by Caliemm

To add to that timeline, there were reports in the press at the end of March that BMW would sideline Continental, the IBS manufacturer from all new orders.

If in March BMW excluded Continental from all new orders, where were all the defective IBS installed after that date coming from? From an old batch of Continental parts previously delivered to BMW? From a new supplier having mysteriously the same problem?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by pascat

If in March BMW excluded Continental from all new orders, where were all the defective IBS installed after that date coming from? From an old batch of Continental parts previously delivered to BMW? From a new supplier having mysteriously the same problem?

They came from Continental. They may order 6 months out, we don't know what the ordering cycle is.

[Bmwx5VA]

Picked up my X5 today finally! Production date 8/8 and was stuck in QC for a while. The dealer didn't know whether it was fixed or just had the good part but he said it was likely the latter. Also he said likely the fixing of the cars with recall will likely take a while (read months).

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Caliemm

From what I read, vehicles that got a replacement IBS in Q1 still got a faulty module because Continental told BMW they had fixed the issue. Obviously they didn’t. Those vehicles are still under recall and will need yet another module. I know it boggles the mind, and the result is rather messy. No one knows what is the build date of vehicles with non Continental IBS. Maybe people who are placing new orders now will be able to tell us.

The US supplier has been making them since at least May but not exclusively.

[pascat]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

They came from Continental. They may order 6 months out, we don't know what the ordering cycle is.

So BMW has a bunch of parts that came from a vendor they just terminated. Maybe they ask the vendor “Is the batch you already delivered any good?”. And Continental (a vendor that evidently BMW does not trust anymore) replies “Not to worry, those are good”. So at that point BMW happily goes ahead and uses those parts without a super rigorous QA assessment of the parts themselves?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by pascat

So they have a bunch of parts that came from a vendor they just terminated. Maybe they ask the vendor “Is the batch you already delivered any good?”. And Continental (a vendor that evidently BMW does not trust anymore) replies “Not to worry, those are good”. So at that point BMW happily goes ahead and uses those parts without a super rigorous QA assessment of the parts themselves?

Could have happened that way or the parts they tested passed QA. Not all of Continental's parts were bad. That is why we are seeing vehicles being removed from the stop sale and recall.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Caliemm

Do you know if the US supplier is Continental North America?

It is rumored to be Bosch but I haven't seen anything concrete on that.

[pascat]

Originally Posted by Caliemm

From what I read, vehicles that got a replacement IBS in Q1 still got a faulty module because Continental told BMW they had fixed the issue.

I actually got a replacement IBS on 8/20/24. Then two days later they told me the replacement is also defective. Complete incompetence!

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by pascat

I actually got a replacement IBS on 8/20/24. Then two days later they told me the replacement is also defective. Complete incompetence!

Barring the US supplier having the same production issue which would be highly unlikely, the only way that could happen is if the technician or inspector screwed up.

Unless you had the issue, dealers were not supposed to be replacing the IBS for recalls so likely your dealer screwed up something.

Edit: I guess I should say that the other way that could happen is that you aren't physically subject to the recall if a part passed the inspection but is included in the batch of bad parts. In other words, the part you got for the fix is just fine as it passed the torque inspection but is currently listed as being part of a bad batch.

[VADrifter]

Originally Posted by Bmwx5VA

Picked up my X5 today finally! Production date 8/8 and was stuck in QC for a while. The dealer didn't know whether it was fixed or just had the good part but he said it was likely the latter. Also he said likely the fixing of the cars with recall will likely take a while (read months).

Ohh… 8/8 now we are getting somewhere mine was finished 8/6. That means a build week 32 car just got cleared, I think it’s the first. So it could happen.. but it probably won’t because I’m not that lucky. 🤦🏻

Did your CA just call you up this morning or did the VIN clear on the recall site?

[pascat]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Barring the US supplier having the same production issue which would be highly unlikely, the only way that could happen is if the technician or inspector screwed up.

Unless you had the issue, dealers were not supposed to be replacing the IBS for recalls so likely your dealer screwed up something.

Edit: I guess I should say that the other way that could happen is that you aren't physically subject to the recall if a part passed the inspection but is included in the batch of bad parts. In other words, the part you got for the fix is just fine as it passed the torque inspection but is currently listed as being part of a bad batch.

To give you a little more information, in April I received the recall letter. On 8/7/24 I had a Parking Brake Malfunction, which they associated with the recall. On 8/20/24 they performed the IBS fix per recall (as described in their work order). Then two days later they anxiously called me and asked to bring my car back right away because the part they replaced still had the problem. They gave me a loaner and my car is now sitting at the dealership with ETA unknown.

[Bmwx5VA]

Can anyone here comment on what all extended warranty/add on options to take? I was offered ultimate care package at 5800 for 6 years/100k and tyre + ding protection+ key replacement at 3800 individually and 800 discount if I take both of them (tyre protection is cancelable any time with prorated refund option) so I took both. Wise decision or not?

[VADrifter]

Originally Posted by Bmwx5VA

Can anyone here comment on what all extended warranty/add on options to take? I was offered ultimate care package at 5800 for 6 years/100k and tyre + ding protection+ key replacement at 3800 individually and 800 discount if I take both of them (tyre protection is cancelable any time with prorated refund option) so I took both. Wise decision or not?

So you paid $9600 in warranty items? The first package that took your ultimate care to 100k miles is only listed at $4749 MSRP on the BMW USA website.

For about 5500 you could replace all four wheels and tires. I guess that leaves whether the ding protection is worth it. Is there a deductible on any of those polices?