Auto Start/Stop

yvnrg1981 · 11-20-2018, 04:00 PM

I think in sport mode the feature is disabled, at least it was in the f15

BobsM3Coupe · 11-20-2018, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by yvnrg1981

I think in sport mode the feature is disabled, at least it was in the f15

It's also off in sport mode on the G01. I would imagine the G05 is the same in sport mode.

MysticBlue · 11-20-2018, 09:56 PM

I coded my F15 sport mode to be the default mode when the car is started. That kept the ASS off also. Bimmercode.

mbhammer · 11-20-2018, 10:26 PM

Somewhere along the way, I thought I picked up these tidbits:

1. The default in Sport drive mode is A S/S off.

2. Drive mode is a setting that is included within a Driver Profile.

3. Driver Profile is cloud-based, is associated with a BMW Connected account, and can be uniquely associated with a key.

4. When the car detects a key, it configures the car in accordance with the profile assigned to that key.

So I'm operating under the belief that I can set up the default configuration I want for the car (which would include Sport mode with A S/S off), assign that profile to my key, and have the car configure itself to my profile when it senses the key and I hit Start.

To the extent I connected the dots correctly, seems like this would be an easy way to defeat A S/S. I hope to have time over Thanksgiving to work through this and will report back my findings.

But if any folks are out ahead of me, thanks in advance for confirmation of or correction to my understanding.

I think this solution, if it in fact works this way, would help a lot of people. NH_F36 Jay, any insights?

Almaretto · 11-20-2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mbhammer

Somewhere along the way, I thought I picked up these tidbits:

1. The default in Sport drive mode is A S/S off.

2. Drive mode is a setting that is included within a Driver Profile.

3. Driver Profile is cloud-based, is associated with a BMW Connected account, and can be uniquely associated with a key.

4. When the car detects a key, it configures the car in accordance with the profile assigned to that key.

1. True
2. Not sure
3. Not sure
4. True

maze446 · 11-21-2018, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbhammer

Somewhere along the way, I thought I picked up these tidbits:

1. The default in Sport drive mode is A S/S off.

2. Drive mode is a setting that is included within a Driver Profile.

3. Driver Profile is cloud-based, is associated with a BMW Connected account, and can be uniquely associated with a key.

4. When the car detects a key, it configures the car in accordance with the profile assigned to that key.

1. True
2. Not sure
3. Not sure
4. True

1. True
2. Not really — only the "individual" drive mode settings for sport and eco plus
3. True
4. True

The problem in 2 which kills the whole thing is that a selected "startup" drive mode is not part of the profile so no matter what you do, the car always defaults to comfort mode.

TK421BMW · 11-21-2018, 07:44 AM

in regards to #4 what does it do if I have my key in my pocket and my wife's is in her purse and we're both in the car? I can see this being a problem a lot.

Xeno · 11-21-2018, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TK421BMW

in regards to #4 what does it do if I have my key in my pocket and my wife's is in her purse and we're both in the car? I can see this being a problem a lot.

I think with the F15, it depended on who unlocked the X5. If unlocked in the garage, then I think it used the profile of the last driver.

maze446 · 11-21-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Xeno

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Originally Posted by TK421BMW

in regards to #4 what does it do if I have my key in my pocket and my wife's is in her purse and we're both in the car? I can see this being a problem a lot.

I think with the F15, it depended on who unlocked the X5. If unlocked in the garage, then I think it used the profile of the last driver.

This is me all the time. Typically whoever unlocks it or, if it's already unlocked, triggers the comfort access features first. However, unlike the F15, the G05 allows you to pretty easily change profiles right on the welcome screen without needing to go deep into the settings menus.

skalberti · 11-21-2018, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbhammer

Somewhere along the way, I thought I picked up these tidbits:

1. The default in Sport drive mode is A S/S off.

2. Drive mode is a setting that is included within a Driver Profile.

3. Driver Profile is cloud-based, is associated with a BMW Connected account, and can be uniquely associated with a key.

4. When the car detects a key, it configures the car in accordance with the profile assigned to that key.

So I'm operating under the belief that I can set up the default configuration I want for the car (which would include Sport mode with A S/S off), assign that profile to my key, and have the car configure itself to my profile when it senses the key and I hit Start.

To the extent I connected the dots correctly, seems like this would be an easy way to defeat A S/S. I hope to have time over Thanksgiving to work through this and will report back my findings.

But if any folks are out ahead of me, thanks in advance for confirmation of or correction to my understanding.

I think this solution, if it in fact works this way, would help a lot of people. NH_F36 Jay, any insights?

You can not turn ASS off by setting up a profile. When I set up my profile for mirrors, seats, steering wheel and all the other settings, they all work except the drive mode always defaults to comfort instead of adaptive like I programmed and of course the ASS is on as well. With coding through E-SYS I changed it to where it remembers my last setting. So when I turn ASS off by the push of the console button, it stays off until I press that button again. You can code the default drive mode to be sport or whatever you want other than comfort, but that also must be done with coding by the individual. The dealership can't do this.

Almaretto · 11-21-2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TK421BMW

in regards to #4 what does it do if I have my key in my pocket and my wife's is in her purse and we're both in the car? I can see this being a problem a lot.

Take away her keys or be the one to unlock door.

Wild Blue · 11-21-2018, 02:21 PM

You let your wife drive?

(ducking)

Or even have keys?

(ducking again)

****** · 11-21-2018, 03:36 PM

I think I know why they call it a cockpit, you have to go through your checklist before you back out of your drive... about like getting ready to fly a plane. ok, not quite, but still...

Lmoney783 · 12-10-2018, 07:19 AM

Curious if anyone who recently picked up the car was able to have the dealer code this?

skalberti · 12-10-2018, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lmoney783

Curious if anyone who recently picked up the car was able to have the dealer code this?

The dealer can't code any special features.

roadkillrob · 12-10-2018, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

The dealer can't code any special features.

This - dealers generally will not recode anything outside of default for you, you need to find someone to do some remote coding or someone local and independent.

lumpydog · 12-10-2018, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by roadkillrob

This - dealers generally will not recode anything outside of default for you, you need to find someone to do some remote coding or someone local and independent.

I've used codemycar.com over the years and they've been great. Back when they did my 2013 X5, they offered one free re-code if your vehicle got reset by the dealer. That happened to me 4 years later and they honored the guarantee.

BMW168 · 12-10-2018, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NH_F36

http://bimmercodeapp.com/ has all the info you need

Just went to their website, G05 X5 no longer on their supported vehicle list !?

May be they are working on updating their codes ?

wjakridgeii · 12-10-2018, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW168

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Originally Posted by NH_F36

http://bimmercodeapp.com/ has all the info you need

Just went to their website, G05 X5 no longer on their supported vehicle list !?

May be they are working on updating their codes ?

Has anyone successfully coded the Auto Start Stop? If you have can you share ECU location for the rest of us.

Almaretto · 12-10-2018, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

The dealer can't code any special features.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadkillrob

This - dealers generally will not recode anything outside of default for you, you need to find someone to do some remote coding or someone local and independent.

They can code certain option (eg, open trunk after door unlock).

They used to be able to code this, but BMW changed Xpath so adding HO-Wort has no affect for ASS.

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Originally Posted by BMW168

Just went to their website, G05 X5 no longer on their supported vehicle list !?

May be they are working on updating their codes ?

Very few modules are mapped. So, it makes it difficult to code new ECU's.

There are only two shared ECU's with G01/G30/G12 that still work. ECU that does ASS is one of them. Module that does seat belt chimes is as well.

Lmoney783 · 12-10-2018, 09:19 PM

So what to use to code ASS? Bimmer code doesn’t seem to support

Almaretto · 12-10-2018, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lmoney783

So what to use to code ASS? Bimmer code doesn’t seem to support

It should as it does on G01, but never used it.

I code with E-sys.

11-20-2018, 04:00 PM	#23
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11-20-2018, 10:26 PM	#26
mbhammer Hammer 203 Rep 202 Posts Drives: 2014 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Midwest USA iTrader: (0)	Auto S/S - Driver Profile - Please Confirm of Correct Somewhere along the way, I thought I picked up these tidbits: 1. The default in Sport drive mode is A S/S off. 2. Drive mode is a setting that is included within a Driver Profile. 3. Driver Profile is cloud-based, is associated with a BMW Connected account, and can be uniquely associated with a key. 4. When the car detects a key, it configures the car in accordance with the profile assigned to that key. So I'm operating under the belief that I can set up the default configuration I want for the car (which would include Sport mode with A S/S off), assign that profile to my key, and have the car configure itself to my profile when it senses the key and I hit Start. To the extent I connected the dots correctly, seems like this would be an easy way to defeat A S/S. I hope to have time over Thanksgiving to work through this and will report back my findings. But if any folks are out ahead of me, thanks in advance for confirmation of or correction to my understanding. I think this solution, if it in fact works this way, would help a lot of people. NH_F36 Jay, any insights? __________________ 2019 BMW X5 40i 2014 MB E63 AMG
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****** Banned 2085 Rep 1,688 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 Msport Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greenville, SC iTrader: (0)	I think I know why they call it a cockpit, you have to go through your checklist before you back out of your drive... about like getting ready to fly a plane. ok, not quite, but still...
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