[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by ZGASPEN

Great. This was the only reason I just added the Exec package to my M50i. I do like the looks on mineral white, but I do daily night driving in the mountains and I've wanted to try these since they were released. Especially now with the loss of the LED fog lights that I use every night in a dark winding and often icy canyon. Knock on wood I've never broken a lamp in 30 years of driving. Price not that far really though from our windshields. I've otherwise heard good things and will also be interested in coding the anti-dazzle.

You will be very satisfied with them. Putting the looks aside, they provide much better performance than the adaptive LEDs. Some say they are the best lighting system available, haven't tried them all so can't comment on that. Here are a few benefits to the lasers:



https://bimmertips.com/how-bmw-laser...work-benefits/

[jad03060]

I wonder what the results would be if the height of the light meter was changed some...you want to see the road, and 1M above isn't the roadway. Laser light, being very coherent, tends to not have much scatter or blossom....i.e., it's laser focused.

One meter, on some smaller vehicles would be about eye level, too.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by jad03060

I wonder what the results would be if the height of the light meter was changed some...you want to see the road, and 1M above isn't the roadway. Laser light, being very coherent, tends to not have much scatter or blossom....i.e., it's laser focused.

One meter, on some smaller vehicles would be about eye level, too.

With light, at the point you're arguing "if only the test had been done with the perfect parameters ..." you've already failed.

It's like a UFC fighter complaining the fight was on Saturday, but he fights his best on Mondays.
As long as it's not too hot.
Before noon.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by jad03060

I wonder what the results would be if the height of the light meter was changed some...you want to see the road, and 1M above isn't the roadway. Laser light, being very coherent, tends to not have much scatter or blossom....i.e., it's laser focused.

One meter, on some smaller vehicles would be about eye level, too.

That is correct, his test procedure appears to be flawed in regards to how/where he positions the light meter. as to what he was testing. The laser lights are designed for illuminating the road far into the distance not in close to the vehicle where he was taking the measurement. If you look at his video you will see that the laser lights appear to illuminate farther/brighter down the road given the reflection of the signs. If he is testing parts of the system, ie. the LED high beams then he draws the correct conclusion. If he is testing the lasers, he failed. It all depends on what you want to look at.



Edit: Here is a pic of the lasers in action, courtesy of AndroidRobot , showing how the light beams are projected. Given how his test was set up it would be very difficult for his meter to capture the light from the lasers.

[jad03060]

If you have a laser beam and you want it to illuminate the road, given the spread, you wouldn't aim it 1M up. The beam doesn't spread that much, but the reflector can help spread it, but it still wouldn't be up.

[jmcmathortho]

I had previously coded the Anti-Dazzle on my X50i with a laptop and E-Sys which was very difficult to get the correct software and to follow various posts on how the code the modules adding and deleting etc. but it worked. The latest OTA software upgrade BMW put out reset all my Anti-Dazzle coding and Auto Start Stop back to factory settings. I have the licensed Bimmercode program for iPhone and followed the above post for coding the anti-dazzle using the 3 steps.

I am reporting my findings:
1) Anti-Dazzle works as previously coded
2) Low beams turn to High Beams above 25 mph but function like standard auto high/low until a speed of 40 mph is reached.
3) Above 40 mph anti-dazzle functions to create a "black tunnel" tracking the cars tail lights in front. I never notice the lights shine above the license plate even with changing elevations or curves.
4) When oncoming traffic approaches the only the left high beam lowers just before the car passes into the high beam path and then resumes high beam after passing.
5) On multi-lane freeway the anti-dazzle only appears to work when traveling in the far right or left lanes (as to not blind adjacent lanes).
6) Decelerating from above 40 mph to below 40 mph the anti-dazzle reverts back to standard auto high/low until you reach 19 mph and low beams kick in below 20 mph.

I have not traveled in front of anyone with anti-dazzle lights but I must say it illuminates the shoulders and sides way in front of leading cars quite nicely and I can only imagine it helps their visibility.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by jmcmathortho

I had previously coded the Anti-Dazzle on my X50i with a laptop and E-Sys which was very difficult to get the correct software and to follow various posts on how the code the modules adding and deleting etc. but it worked. The latest OTA software upgrade BMW put out reset all my Anti-Dazzle coding and Auto Start Stop back to factory settings. I have the licensed Bimmercode program for iPhone and followed the above post for coding the anti-dazzle using the 3 steps.

BimmerCode isn't capable of coding anti-dazzle, even in Expert mode. did you mean to say E-Sys?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

BimmerCode isn't capable of coding anti-dazzle, even in Expert mode. did you mean to say E-Sys?

I took it that he used the BimmerCode settings for a faux anti-dazzle that someone posted a few months ago. It has been shown that those settings are not complete and shouldn't be used so hopefully if he did use theme will reverse it.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I took it that he used the BimmerCode settings for a faux anti-dazzle that someone posted a few months ago. It has been shown that those settings are not complete and shouldn't be used so hopefully if he did use theme will reverse it.

i also thought of that thread of the BimmerCode faux anti-dazzle, but since he said "above post", i concluded he meant the E-Sys post in an earlier page of this thread since nothing referred to any BimmerCode steps.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

i also thought of that thread of the BimmerCode faux anti-dazzle, but since he said "above post", i concluded he meant the E-Sys post in an earlier page of this thread since nothing referred to any BimmerCode steps.

I wonder if he was reading multiple threads and posted in the wrong one. He specifically mentioned using an iPhone so that would rule out E-Sys.

No matter how/why he posted at least it gave us a chance to remind folks not to use the Bimmercode method for anti-dazzle.

[jad03060]

The way I read it was that he had originally, fully implemented anti-dazzle, then an OTA update was applied, the anti-dazzle got disabled, but he was able to use BimmerCode to flip those switches to get it back. Once the software inhibit module is removed (that, BimmerCode can't do), the switches needed, were accessible from BimmerCode.

If so, that's good news, as if you didn't do the initial coding yourself, just using BimmerCode may be able to restore it to function after an OTA update, rather than repaying for that to happen.

[AGONXF30]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

BimmerCode isn't capable of coding anti-dazzle, even in Expert mode. did you mean to say E-Sys?

Bimmercode can be used to program anti-dazzle. I did it and I works perfectly. I drive on plenty backroads and highways and it works as intended. You can see the tunneling perfectly specially behind cars.

[KLCC]

Originally Posted by AGONXF30

Bimmercode can be used to program anti-dazzle. I did it and I works perfectly. I drive on plenty backroads and highways and it works as intended. You can see the tunneling perfectly specially behind cars.

I dont recall seeing it in Bimmercode. is it under lighting? or expert mode only?

[AGONXF30]

Originally Posted by KLCC

I dont recall seeing it in Bimmercode. is it under lighting? or expert mode only?

Expert mode and there are quite a bit of setting to change to make it work.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by AGONXF30

Bimmercode can be used to program anti-dazzle. I did it and I works perfectly. I drive on plenty backroads and highways and it works as intended. You can see the tunneling perfectly specially behind cars.

This has been discussed many times. Do not use Bimmercode to code anti-dazzle since it can't make all of the changes needed. The coding that is out there for is it flawed and does not enable the anti-dazzle completely.

[AGONXF30]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

This has been discussed many times. Do not use Bimmercode to code anti-dazzle since it can't make all of the changes needed. The coding that is out there for is it flawed and does not enable the anti-dazzle completely.

Which code do you speak about, because it NOT a simple change of one setting. It takes times and it involves multiple areas/settings that need change. So I am NOT sure which code you are doing by the one I did works very well. I drive a lot on dark rural roads and you can SEE it working in as advertised.

Also there is a long list of items to change, not just the normal three things most people post.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by AGONXF30

Which code do you speak about, because it NOT a simple change of one setting. It takes times and it involves multiple areas/settings that need change. So I am NOT sure which code you are doing by the one I did works very well. I drive a lot on dark rural roads and you can SEE it working in as advertises.

I'm talking about the code that was posted awhile in this forum and others concerning enabling anti-dazzle with Bimmercode. It may or may not be the same as you used but it wouldn't matter, it is not possible to fully enable anti-dazzle with Bimmercode because it needs to have both VO and FDL coding and access ECUs (FLM and KAFAS) not available in Bimmercode. The coding that can be done with Bimmercode only partially enables them, the lights will be more active but there will also be light leakage with a higher chance of light going where it shouldn't. Almaretto, one of the best coders around, and others have posted concerning this.

[arRod1981]

If I am reading and interpreting the description correctly, it looks like Land Rover already jumped on the new regs to offer their version of Anti-Dazzle.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by arRod1981

If I am reading and interpreting the description correctly, it looks like Land Rover already jumped on the new regs to offer their version of Anti-Dazzle.

Sure looks like it. I think it will be a few years before BMW offers it.

[jad03060]

Part of the issue seems to be that the DOT has not established a certification test for enabling this capability. Hopefully, that will happen soon. They've defined the parameters.

In the interim, more than a few people have enabled the Euro spec version of this on their vehicles which first requires removing an entire module, then tweaking data in other modules to provide the full capabilities. Something that Bimmercode can't do completely.

[AGONXF30]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I'm talking about the code that was posted awhile in this forum and others concerning enabling anti-dazzle with Bimmercode. It may or may not be the same as you used but it wouldn't matter, it is not possible to fully enable anti-dazzle with Bimmercode because it needs to have both VO and FDL coding and access ECUs (FLM and KAFAS) not available in Bimmercode. The coding that can be done with Bimmercode only partially enables them, the lights will be more active but there will also be light leakage with a higher chance of light going where it shouldn't. Almaretto, one of the best coders around, and others have posted concerning this.

I see ZERO light leakage! You can clearly see the cut off, clearly I have access to some very very dark backcountry roads with tree on both sides to clearly observe the behavior.

Also once again you can access the items in BimmerCode, one just has to know where to look. So once again. It's is possible.

[Fahrfun]

So, for those of us with laser light in the US today and without any coding, are we getting any benefit at all from them over the less costly LED lights? Thanks for clarifying.