curb lights

AndroidRobot · 02-24-2019, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rmorin1249

Disabled? Don't exist? I think we've been snookered. Just like the laser lights. Does BMW expect NHTSA to approve them? If they are approved will dealers be able to activate them? This is a real fiasco.

I believe they do just like Audi who has Matrix LEDs installed on their A6/7/8/Q8 now so it's not just BMW here.

My point is the Germans are 100% expecting NHTSA to approve them

ScottMZ3 · 02-24-2019, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by EJELITE

Basically the same thing I was told, the bulbs simply don't exist, due to NA regulations. mmmhmmm

Don’t exist? Ha! The only way they LED could be more obvious is if it actually turned on!

Phred · 02-24-2019, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EJELITE

Basically the same thing I was told, the bulbs simply don't exist, due to NA regulations. mmmhmmm

That's not what mnewnam reported. He said the dealer who opened the PUMA case said hardware existed, was installed, but cornering lights were not working. That was the basis of the PUMA case. The response being "BMW says they have disabled the cornering lights on all North American X5s and the dealer said they have no way of coding them to turn on"

Re "no way of coding them on" I'm guessing this may be what Almaretto was hinting at in his Laser thread posts. While hardware may be installed it appears additional methods of disabling it may be employed - FuSi.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=163

which points to a discussion by lemetier.

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=12

EJELITE · 02-24-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Phred

That's not what mnewnam reported. He said the dealer who opened the PUMA case said hardware existed, was installed, but cornering lights were not working. That was the basis of the PUMA case. The response being "BMW says they have disabled the cornering lights on all North American X5s and the dealer said they have no way of coding them to turn on"

Re "no way of coding them on" I'm guessing this may be what Almaretto was hinting at in his Laser thread posts. While hardware may be installed it appears additional methods of disabling it may be employed - FuSi.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=163

which points to a discussion by lemetier.

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=12

If they are actually there, how is there 'no way of coding them on'? My dealer seemed pretty sincere with trying to get them to work, but in the end were told by BMW Canada there are no cornering lights.

rmorin1249 · 02-24-2019, 03:48 PM

That's just to shut you up. I think there are mistruths being spread by corporate.

MystroX5 · 02-24-2019, 03:56 PM

Cornering lights are working on other BMW models. Obviously BMW is stonewalling or has a major issue with the design. Could be they have incorrect wire lumes for the lights or manufacturing error. We are not going to know anything until BMW wants us to (this includes dealers). Does the X7 have working cornering lights?? That might tell us a lot.

Phred · 02-24-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EJELITE

If they are actually there, how is there 'no way of coding them on'?

Read the posts by lemetier over in the F80 forum.

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=12

"Coding alone isn't sufficient. There are also physical locking plugs on the headlamps as well as FSC, Functional Safety Release Checksum (FuSi), and a new pesky Geo-Fencing limitation (added via OTA)."

So, could it be the same for G05's? Maybe. mnewnam's dealer reportedly confirmed the cornering light hardware exists before opening the PUMA case. The reply to his dealer was that they were disabled in the US market and couldn't be simply enabled via coding. Eagerly awaiting what Forrara's dealer PUMA response will be.

The whole "disabled for the US market" thing doesn't add up - no one outside the US has been able to report G05 cornering lights working. That should be telling us something - just don't know what. As a side note overseas G05 orders (at least UK and Australia) for laser (5AZ) had delayed build slots (after March). Maybe overseas cornering lights will be working for those cars? Early build dealer cars and M50d's had/have 5AZ but no reports of working cornering lights.

Ilyam5 · 02-24-2019, 05:05 PM

Can anyone try them on the 3 series. Some dealers have around 20 of them in stock. Some will have laser lights.

ScottMZ3 · 02-24-2019, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilyam5

Can anyone try them on the 3 series. Some dealers have around 20 of them in stock. Some will have laser lights.

They worked on the pre-production models! I’m almost certain they will work just fine on the ones at the dealers currently. But would be nice to confirm.

rmorin1249 · 02-25-2019, 01:37 PM

The number of frustrated and disappointed owners is growing every day. BMWNA should issue a bulletin to every dealer with the "whole truth and nothing but the truth".

goenkar · 02-25-2019, 03:03 PM

I am surprised this has not been picked up by reporters at car magazines/sites. I am sure some would have better sources to get definite answers.

magna6882 · 03-01-2019, 01:22 AM

Has anyone heard anything more on this?

NoCompromise · 03-01-2019, 02:26 AM

I assume that this is just reflected light...?

ScottMZ3 · 03-01-2019, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCompromise

I assume that this is just reflected light...?

Actually that kinda looks like it is on. You can see part of the plastic light cover is being illuminated a bit lower than the part being illuminated by the headlight. If that makes sense.

Is this your car? Where the turn signals on? Wheel turned? In reverse? You should see a noticeable area light up to the side of the car if the cornering light comes on.

bigrobb2 · 03-01-2019, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCompromise

I assume that this is just reflected light...?

Don't tease us man. Details, give us details.

ScottMZ3 · 03-01-2019, 07:11 PM

Too me that looks like the cornering light is on!

thomas_Rp · 03-01-2019, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCompromise

I assume that this is just reflected light...?

Woah. Do we have a break through here? What build are you OP?

russelldav · 03-01-2019, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thomas_Rp

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Originally Posted by NoCompromise

I assume that this is just reflected light...?

Woah. Do we have a break through here? What build are you OP?

He is in the UK so the BMW story that the cornering lights have been disabled in USA/CA seems to hold. Damn it.

bigrobb2 · 03-02-2019, 11:56 AM

Mother F*#&$....

magna6882 · 03-02-2019, 12:05 PM

It seems like false advertising not only with the lights but other features. They disclosed the roof availability so we knew what we were getting but when features are demonstrated online it is done to obtain buyers. i am thinking we may see a class action down the road and with the forums it is not so hard to come up with the required members.

MystroX5 · 03-02-2019, 12:07 PM

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Mother F*#&$....

Sometime the smallest amount of words capture the true flavor of the moment.

I could have wasted 4 parographs of words and not hit the nail on the head so eloquently.

bigrobb2 · 03-02-2019, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MystroX5

Sometime the smallest amount of words capture the true flavor of the moment.

I could have wasted 4 parographs of words and not hit the nail on the head so eloquently.

My anger and pain speaks volumes.

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MystroX5 Major General 6290 Rep 5,324 Posts Drives: 2020 X7 M50i/ 911 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Central Pa. iTrader: (0)	Cornering lights are working on other BMW models. Obviously BMW is stonewalling or has a major issue with the design. Could be they have incorrect wire lumes for the lights or manufacturing error. We are not going to know anything until BMW wants us to (this includes dealers). Does the X7 have working cornering lights?? That might tell us a lot.
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