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      02-22-2020, 01:24 AM   #419
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Help me decide… have a G05 on order which is coming soon. I need winter wheels but options are slowly thinning out.

Phytonic blue is the exterior color. I'm leaning towards one of these... thoughts?

The top one or bottom one?

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Top. Looks more OEM like an x5m wheel. From eBay? or who makes them?
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I prefer the looks of the bottom ones. The look more robust.

What size are the wheels?

20" square setup. Likely will put spacers to make them line up with the fenders more.
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Top. Looks more OEM like an x5m wheel. From eBay? or who makes them?
Not from Ebay. Online retailer has these or a couple.of local wheel/tire shops.

Top one is from ruffino and bottom one Deutschman
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Summer and winter tires. Winters are MSW Type 48 8.5x20 30mm, 20" square, with Blizzak LM001 275/45R20.

M50i, Arctic Gray over Ivory Merino (can't really see interior). MSport suspension - no air. No spacers (although you can't tell from this angle anyway).
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Summer and winter tires. Winters are MSW Type 48 8.5x20 30mm, 20" square, with Blizzak LM001 275/45R20.

M50i, Arctic Gray over Ivory Merino (can't really see interior). MSport suspension - no air. No spacers (although you can't tell from this angle anyway).
Same car and same color?
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Same car and same color?
Yes, same car, but different time of day. The white balance may make it look a bit different. I took the summer tires picture around 7pm (setting sun, overcast day), and the winter tires around 8am (clear day).
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Is the 2020 x6 lug pattern the same as 2020 x5?

Looking at winter wheel and tire packages for my wife's x6.
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When i had my F85 and F15 with scorpion winter tires on the factory 20" staggered sized I wasn't too impressed with snow traction. It always felt like it was dragging the rear wheels in deeper snow during turns which i contributed to the wide tires. Its no where as sure footed as my old F10 running square 245 width snow tires in comparison.
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This is a 20" set 275/305 on Michelin Pilot Alpines with air suspension set to level 2.
I'm curious, how has your experience been with a staggered winter set up? I am thinking about doing the exact same thing with either 20's or 21's.

Just need to decide, like ASAP! Thanks
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This is a 20" set 275/305 on Michelin Pilot Alpines with air suspension set to level 2.
I'm curious, how has your experience been with a staggered winter set up? I am thinking about doing the exact same thing with either 20's or 21's.

Just need to decide, like ASAP! Thanks
I had staggered setups both in the F15 and now the G05. I had no issues in regards to the performance in the snow. The only difference between the two setups were the tires. I had the Pirelli RFT on the F15 and Michelin PA4 non RFT on the G05. I felt the Michelin's were a bit better in dry, ice and snow plus I am not a fan of RFT. The Michelin's ran smoother and were quieter but I would attribute that to the fact they are non-RFT. When I had an E70 we had a square setup and from that point I've always had a staggered setup. The look is important to me and the fact they are on the G05 for 5 months of a year I want it to look good for that length of time.

I ordered my setup in August last year and I was so happy that I did because I got exactly what I wanted. I would order them soon.

I ended up going with 20". Here is a link that we wrestled with on sizing https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25127919
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I am glad the this topic has been bumped!

We will need to get a winter set up for our 2020 40i equipped with M brakes and air suspension. We have the stock 22s, but will likely shift to a 20 inch set up as it provides more tire choices.

Given that we have a factory temporary spare for the stock 22s, should we go for run flats in the winter set up? Thoughts and recommendations?

Thanks.
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Hey everyone,

I have a set of winter tires from my 2014 X5 staggered 275/40/20 and 315/35/20. Can i install them on my 2019 X5 with M sport brakes and if so what kind of rims you guys recommend???

Thanks in advance for your help👍!
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Hey everyone,

I have a set of winter tires from my 2014 X5 staggered 275/40/20 and 315/35/20. Can i install them on my 2019 X5 with M sport brakes and if so what kind of rims you guys recommend???

Thanks in advance for your help👍!
The 2019 x5 has a different bolt pattern so unfortunately you can not install them. Unless you used a 5x120 spacer to 5x112
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The 2019 x5 has a different bolt pattern so unfortunately you can not install them. Unless you used a 5x120 spacer to 5x112
Damm it. Thanks for the info👍
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Damm it. Thanks for the info👍
No worries. The center bore is also different.

For the 2019 x5 you will want to make sure you have the following:

Center Bore: 66.6 (can use larger bores with hub ring)
Bolt Pattern 5x112 (can use other patterns with a spacer)

I'd recommend sticking to the stock figures though.
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Hi guys having a problem here. Have a 2019 BMW X5 4.0 with M sport package - Ordered Niche Misano 20" wheels, 66.56 bore size. Went to have them placed on with winter tires and installers says incorrect centre hub, and it should be 74.1.
The company I purchased the wheels from say it is the correct size based on multiple sources.

Can someone help clarify?
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Hi guys having a problem here. Have a 2019 BMW X5 4.0 with M sport package - Ordered Niche Misano 20" wheels, 66.56 bore size. Went to have them placed on with winter tires and installers says incorrect centre hub, and it should be 74.1.
The company I purchased the wheels from say it is the correct size based on multiple sources.

Can someone help clarify?
OP in this thread installed wheel with 66.6 bore size, no problem. I got the same wheels, but haven't installed yet.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1760490

Misano is not winter rated, I believe, and has 74.1 bore.
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Hi guys having a problem here. Have a 2019 BMW X5 4.0 with M sport package - Ordered Niche Misano 20" wheels, 66.56 bore size. Went to have them placed on with winter tires and installers says incorrect centre hub, and it should be 74.1.
The company I purchased the wheels from say it is the correct size based on multiple sources.

Can someone help clarify?
G05 X5 hub is definitely 66.56mm (not 66.66 as I had imprecisely previously stated). If the rims are the same 66.56, the installer is confused and should unconfuse themselves. However ...

... many aftermarket wheels are manufactured in larger hub sizes and the manufacturer supplies or pre-installs an adapter hub ring in each rim for the target vehicle. They'll often do that without telling customers about the adapter ring. Perhaps that's what's happening here ... the adapter rings are missing ("check the box").

This is just a guess, but, otherwise, vehicle hub size would be a pretty big thing for a wheel installer to be confused about. Big enough that, if true, I'd immediately take my car away from them.

P.S. I am not specifically familiar with those rim models, but if adapter rings are needed, it implies the rims are pretty generic (which means not G05 stock offsets and rim thickness) and in that case I would be surprised if they don't also require spacers and different length bolts for mounting to G05.
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G05 X5 hub is definitely 66.66mm. If the rims are the same 66.66, the installer is confused and should unconfuse themselves. However ...

... many aftermarket wheels are manufactured in larger hub sizes and the manufacturer supplies or pre-installs an adapter hub ring in each rim for the target vehicle. They'll often do that without telling customers about the adapter ring. Perhaps that's what's happening here ... the adapter rings are missing ("check the box").

This is just a guess, but, otherwise, vehicle hub size would be a pretty big thing for a wheel installer to be confused about. Big enough that, if true, I'd immediately take my car away from them.

P.S. I am not specifically familiar with those rim models, but if adapter rings are needed, it implies the rims are pretty generic (which means not G05 stock offsets and rim thickness) and in that case I would be surprised if they don't all require spacers and different length bolts for mounting to G05.

Thank you all for the input. I spoke with one of the lead techs at the tire shop, he said that he even tried placing it on himself and for some reason will not fit. I asked if it is possible that the manufacturer mistakenly placed the wrong wheel in the box, and he said he has seen that before. For some reason, one of the workers there said the bore is 74.1mm (used in the M model of the 2018?). I cannot seem to verify that but it seems to be inconsistent with the information I'm getting from most sources (being that the 2019 X5 is 66.56 all around).

You guys ever hear of cases where incorrect bore size is placed in box? I measured and got the 66 mm, but perhaps it is possible it wasn't machined correctly? Seems unlikely.
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G05 X5 hub is definitely 66.56mm. If the rims are the same 66.56, the installer is confused and should unconfuse themselves. However ...

... many aftermarket wheels are manufactured in larger hub sizes and the manufacturer supplies or pre-installs an adapter hub ring in each rim for the target vehicle. They'll often do that without telling customers about the adapter ring. Perhaps that's what's happening here ... the adapter rings are missing ("check the box").

This is just a guess, but, otherwise, vehicle hub size would be a pretty big thing for a wheel installer to be confused about. Big enough that, if true, I'd immediately take my car away from them.

P.S. I am not specifically familiar with those rim models, but if adapter rings are needed, it implies the rims are pretty generic (which means not G05 stock offsets and rim thickness) and in that case I would be surprised if they don't all require spacers and different length bolts for mounting to G05.

Thank you all for the input. I spoke with one of the lead techs at the tire shop, he said that he even tried placing it on himself and for some reason will not fit. I asked if it is possible that the manufacturer mistakenly placed the wrong wheel in the box, and he said he has seen that before. For some reason, one of the workers there said the bore is 74.1mm (used in the M model of the 2018?). I cannot seem to verify that but it seems to be inconsistent with the information I'm getting from most sources (being that the 2019 X5 is 66.56 all around).

You guys ever hear of cases where incorrect bore size is placed in box? I measured and got the 66 mm, but perhaps it is possible it wasn't machined correctly? Seems unlikely.
If it was done by humans or anything created/programmed by humans, absolutely anything is possible. One thing is completely certain however: G05 is 66.56mm hub (not 66.66 as I had imprecisely previously stated), no ifs or buts.

Not everyone is willing to tell shops how to do their jobs, but they should just pull out their electronic vernier callipers and measure everything to get to root cause without guesses. From the sounds of it, one way or another this rim is not going to fit. It could be the bore, it could be adapter rings, it could be bolt pattern, it could be interference with brake calliper, it could be interference with some other part of the wheel well assembly. After root cause is figured out, you can then blame the right parties and figure out how to fix.

Unfortunately these are the kinds of issues one runs into when not either a) buying stock from BMW or b) getting a turnkey shop to do everything as a single responsibility — it makes the vendor 100% responsible for all errors and uncertainties. If it's not a) or b), then you need to do EVERYTHING yourself, including measurements and test fitments before tire mounting — it's a pain, but there is no shortcut and luck is unlikely. I've posted before that there are a lot of moving pieces with custom rims.
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OP in this thread installed wheel with 66.6 bore size, no problem. I got the same wheels, but haven't installed yet.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1760490

Misano is not winter rated, I believe, and has 74.1 bore.
The Niche Misano come in multiple centre bore sizes. Mine are 20x9, 66.56.
As for being "winter rated", I've heard that is more of an issue in areas where salt is used on the roads (we use mostly sand now). Have you guys heard the same?
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Another member here got his Vossen installed and the box/wheels says the center bore is 66.56

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=169
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