[jpw172]

For the charger that comes with the 24 X50e where do you get the adapter to it for the 240v level 2 charging?

[jad03060]

If you're lucky, your salesperson might be talked into including it with your sale. It's a parts department thing, and some of the online BMW shops will discount it some.

[SwissBeemer]

It doesn't come with the car as standard in the US?

[Jcit]

Here is one you can buy online. It is the correct one for the Flexible Fast Charger 2.0 that comes with the 2024 X5 50e. It has a NEMA 14-50 plug but there are others out there depending on what electrical service you have available at your house. I believe the 45e came with the FFC 1.0 and these adapters are not compatible with each other.

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...50-61448490525

[cobramite]

Maybe someday they will get around to standardizing all these electrical recharge contraptions the way gas pumps have been for a hundred years.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by SwissBeemer

It doesn't come with the car as standard in the US?

in the U.S., only the adapter for plugging into a common household outlet (110/120V) is included. this is level 1 charging.

if owners want to do level 2 charging (220/240V), then they need to purchase the adapter for that level since the plugs are different due to the voltage difference

[cobramite]

^^^^^^along with running a 220 line to feed that plug and with an appropriate breaker if there is room in your home panel, a sub panel could be needed also.

[cdhowell]

Originally Posted by jpw172

For the charger that comes with the 24 X50e where do you get the adapter to it for the 240v level 2 charging?

I went ahead and ordered mine from bmwpartsdirect.com, I don't expect the dealer to provide one. It shipped next day and was cheaper.

[cobramite]

Originally Posted by cdhowell

I went ahead and ordered mine from bmwpartsdirect.com, I don't expect the dealer to provide one. It shipped next day and was cheaper.

Guessing that is money well spent as it is said to reduce the charging time by well over 50%.

[cdhowell]

Originally Posted by cobramite

Guessing that is money well spent as it is said to reduce the charging time by well over 50%.

Yea! I already have the plug in my garage from my Tesla. I had to purchase an adapter for the Tesla travel charger as well. I guess I will sell the Tesla one on eBay or something... haha.

[bono]

If I already charge 530e with level 2 charger, I assume I don't need to buy any adapters, correct?

[Gene Horr]

Originally Posted by cobramite

Guessing that is money well spent as it is said to reduce the charging time by well over 50%.

WELL over. Twice the voltage cuts the time in half. Then 3 times the current (or more!) can cut 2/3 out of that time. Personally I run it at 20 amps @ 220/240. This gives me a good balance of 1/4 the 110V/10A charge time while not dumping more waste heat(*) into the garage and hopefully not stressing the system from 100% capacity.

(*) Yeah, yeah, total waste heat is roughly the same. But by lowering the rate it allows the garage to better keep up with its convection cooling rate.

[SwissBeemer]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

in the U.S., only the adapter for plugging into a common household outlet (110/120V) is included. this is level 1 charging.

if owners want to do level 2 charging (220/240V), then they need to purchase the adapter for that level since the plugs are different due to the voltage difference

I see. Both L2 and L3 cables come standard with the car in Europe, but the cars are also a lot more expensive around here than in the US.

FWIW most people in Germany that are charging at home have a 11kW Wallbox fed by 3x230V/16A phases (400V against each other with 120° phase-shift) which is more than the car can do anyways.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by bono

If I already charge 530e with level 2 charger, I assume I don't need to buy any adapters, correct?

if you get the 50e and plan on using/sharing your existing level 2 charging cable, then you won’t need to buy an adapter.

after my wife got her 530e, we tried sharing our one JuiceBox, but it became an inconvenience, so I got a second one which shares the load on the same circuit. now we can charge simultaneously.

[cobramite]

Originally Posted by Gene Horr

WELL over. Twice the voltage cuts the time in half. Then 3 times the current (or more!) can cut 2/3 out of that time. Personally I run it at 20 amps @ 220/240. This gives me a good balance of 1/4 the 110V/10A charge time while not dumping more waste heat(*) into the garage and hopefully not stressing the system from 100% capacity.

(*) Yeah, yeah, total waste heat is roughly the same. But by lowering the rate it allows the garage to better keep up with its convection cooling rate.

I think someone in the know here said that going to 220/240 takes it from over 30 hours to 5 or 6 hours. Huge difference indeed.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by cobramite

I think someone in the know here said that going to 220/240 takes it from over 30 hours to 5 or 6 hours. Huge difference indeed.

that was for the 45e. for the 50e, it’s down to ~3 hours because of its faster charger

[jad03060]

Originally Posted by cobramite

Guessing that is money well spent as it is said to reduce the charging time by well over 50%.

The level 1 FFS is programmed to limit current to 10A, so at 120vac, that's a max of 1200W. The optional (in the USA) level 2 cord programs the device to announce it has 40A, but the X5's maximum it can draw is 32A, so 32*240=7,680W, but the power supply IN the X5 on the 50e is limited to 7400W in the USA (places that have 3-phase power, it can accept more if the power and adapter is correct).

So, it's more like nearly 7x faster in the USA with a level 2 cord with the FFC.

[bono]

Thanks. 50e replaces 530e, so no issue then. Thank you!

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

if you get the 50e and plan on using/sharing your existing level 2 charging cable, then you won’t need to buy an adapter.

after my wife got her 530e, we tried sharing our one JuiceBox, but it became an inconvenience, so I got a second one which shares the load on the same circuit. More we can charge simultaneously.

[NoDTMF]

Hi, Rather new here and I have a new 50e. About chargers, the charger I got came with a charger capable of 40 Amps at 240 volts. It only came with the 120v pigtail. I order a leverl 2 pigtail but it is for a nema 6-20 plug which is rated 16Amps at 240. is there a pigtail for the 40 amp (I think limit is actually 32 amps) for the BMW supplied charger? I suppose it would be a 14-50 or something?

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by NoDTMF

Hi, Rather new here and I have a new 50e. About chargers, the charger I got came with a charger capable of 40 Amps at 240 volts. It only came with the 120v pigtail. I order a leverl 2 pigtail but it is for a nema 6-20 plug which is rated 16Amps at 240. is there a pigtail for the 40 amp (I think limit is actually 32 amps) for the BMW supplied charger? I suppose it would be a 14-50 or something?

purchasing a level 2 adapter for the Flexible Fast Charger is specific to one’s home circuit. the most common in the U.S. tends to be for NEMA 14-50 outlets. you’ll need to know your circuit’s specs

the 14-50 adapter for the FFC 2.0 is rated to 40A

[jad03060]

Across the world, there are like 15 different pigtail adapters to handle various local plugs and standards. The pigtail you got is for the FFC version 1 and won't even plug into the FFC you have. Right now, there are only two pigtails for US style plugs, the one that comes with it is for 10A/120vac. The other is for 40A/240vac, and that's what you want for level 2, as it's the only other one that will work with your FFC. Depending on where you live in the world, your choices will differ.

[NoDTMF]

Originally Posted by jad03060

Across the world, there are like 15 different pigtail adapters to handle various local plugs and standards. The pigtail you got is for the FFC version 1 and won't even plug into the FFC you have. Right now, there are only two pigtails for US style plugs, the one that comes with it is for 10A/120vac. The other is for 40A/240vac, and that's what you want for level 2, as it's the only other one that will work with your FFC. Depending on where you live in the world, your choices will differ.

Okay a little confused as I will be having one like this delivered, which I believe will fit charger but is only suitable for 16 amp charging at 240. (and nema 6-20 plug)

https://parts.bmwnorthwest.com/p/BMW...oaAvd0EALw_wcB

What I can't find is the pigtail with the 14-50 plug that fit the charger.


Actually though, I only have a dedicated 20Amp circuit at this time, so 16A will suffice. I just want to be ready for when I upgrade.

Thanks