[cycolac]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

Oh I understand, I also would like an AS alternative, our rainy seasons here can be flash floods for weeks

Mine are on the way. I'll likely put the summers back on in the spring when the temp steady's out over 50F. The problem in KY is it will oscillate back and forth past that 45F mark for a month or two in both fall and spring. Trying to get the timing right between winters and summers will be impossible... plus the price point is unbelievable... as cheap as these are I'll take the chance and slowly ease my way into any pace to get a feel for handling/stability before I push anything. All the reviews I found were very positive on both the company and the performance of these tires.

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by cycolac

I did find them on onlinetires.com. They have the 315's, but 295's are out of stock - just pulled this:

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SimpleTire via EBay has them available in that size.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38561136135...mis&media=COPY

[Gfit]

Got some more time on these today on some familiar roads. Can confirm that the ride is more compliant. Took a fast sweeper off the highway and the tires definitely had a little more play than the PS4s which I guess is to be expected.

[petercnj]

Hi cycolac / GFit - I'm in NJ and thinking about getting these Arroyo tires. How are you liking these tires?

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by petercnj

Hi cycolac / GFit - I'm in NJ and thinking about getting these Arroyo tires. How are you liking these tires?

I’ve got about 600 miles on them so far and no complaints. Temps were in low 30s this week and they handled great. Lots of driving in rain too and they feel solid. Snow is the next test whenever that comes.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

Oh I understand, I also would like an AS alternative, our rainy seasons here can be flash floods for weeks

For displacing water, summer tire pattern will be superior to all season.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by Gfit

Here you go

Definitely good found. Usually lesser known brands just isn’t using the latest technique in making the rubbers. And usually that doesn’t reflect when tire is at the first half of life. Toward 2nd half, they may degrade faster, such as less grip or louder. But at that price point, I don’t see why not, instead of changing at 10% left, change at 25% left, you are still ahead.

[Brandt51]

They don’t show up as compatible for X5Ms because of their speed rating.

Another reason some tires may not show up is a different/lower load rating. Maybe.

Just a thought. Hope them tires work good. Sailun truck tires are made in Thailand also and they’re know to be be great tires.

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

For displacing water, summer tire pattern will be superior to all season.

But that doesn't equate to traction. Tire siping gives the traction in the absence of hydroplaning.

[eelnoraa]

But that doesn't equate to traction. Tire siping gives the traction in the absence of hydroplaning.

Not correct. Assuming you are on pavement, real differentiation is temperature range. Give summer tires are for warmer temp, the need to handle snow and ice is not needed, the pattern become large block and wide channel.

In the absence of hydroplane, summer tire will have better traction simply because water is not in the picture anymore, given assuming temperature isn't a concern. The exist of sip is for loose stuff, like gravel, or snow. You will never see people switch to all season tire is auto sport event in raining day.

[ragj1976]

Just picked up a 2024 x5 w/ the same 22's as you. I as well am looking for the All Season. Pirelli makes one in that staggered size but out of stock everywhere. I think after this thread I will try those Arroyo's. I am always hesitant about the off brands, but probably worth it for the $$.

[JohnRoth]

Any updates, traction, noise, wear ?

Thanks

[Gfit]

Look the same as the day I installed them, don’t really notice any tire noise and still taking corners at same speed as previous summers just maybe feel a little bit of wiggle deep in corner but after a month I don’t really notice that anymore either. No snow yet here but they do just fine in sub freezing temps

[singh718q]

Hey one more update? Its been another 4 months haha .. curious

[Gfit]

Going great. Made it through the freezing temps and some bits of snow. Can’t really see and wear yet. Very pleased with the tires and would get again.

[-DB-]

Thinking about these also. Road trips on 95 in the rain touch sketchy sometimes on stockers

[5ive7even]

I ordered these as part of a wheel/tire package. Haven't received them yet as the HRE FF10s are backordered. Hoping they arrive early April. Will report back here with driving impressions for the Arroyo's. From what I've read and seen on youtube, they appear to be decent tires.

[TTTTTTT]

I ordered a set of these tires as well. Received them last week, just need to go and get them installed. Looking forward to no longer feeling like I’m in the tire business with having multiple sets of tires for different seasons for many years not only for my X5M but previous cars as well.