08-10-2022, 05:47 PM | #133 |
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I wish I would have known my X5 had a wire harness built in.. LOL. I bought the Curtis Bluetooth controller, and have been happy with it. I am expecting the X6 M50i with the brake package built in, so will look for the built in brake controller wiring.
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08-10-2022, 06:00 PM | #134 |
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In the USA, prewiring for the brake controller (and the lighting control) is only there with the OEM towing option. Some other markets either get, or can order that, but unlike on earlier versions, not on the current model.
That only becomes important if you have a trailer weighing more than about 1500# (see your manual) that has electric brakes requiring a controller to work. |
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08-21-2022, 05:33 AM | #135 | |
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This is great info and i'm just about to do this to my X3, did you have to do anything in the boot?, my x3 already has a towbar so i'll need to check if the wiring is already done for the electric brakes in the connector. |
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08-25-2022, 12:21 AM | #137 |
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With the towing package, BMW puts the wiring in from the hitch's electrical connector up to the front so you don't need to run that wiring...you just need to plug in the controller, and figure out where to mount it. It would have been nice if they had a package engineered to plug directly in with a planned mounting location but they don't or haven't. They don't sell a controller either.
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09-25-2022, 11:41 PM | #138 |
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Does anyone have an extra CONNECTOR and PINS ?????? I will for PAY , parts, shipping, +
I tried multiple sources, same answer: The connector is coming from Porsche and will take time. I have to move a trailer by next weekend and got the Tekonsha wiring harness but the pin sequence is wrong |
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09-26-2022, 12:06 AM | #139 |
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If you have an electronic store around, pick up an extraction tool, remove the needed pins from the connector, and put them where they need to be.
If you can solder, you could cut the wires, and move them, too. Some shrink tubing would be better than tape if you solder. |
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I just placed an order on Amazon for pin extraction tool, hopefully it will work My main concern in cutting the wires and re-connect/ solder is the wire thickness. The +12v power wire and trailer brake wire is thicker than ground and car brake wire. I want to maintain the ability to charge the RV trailer batteries while plugged in. I feel like using a thinner wire will make the wires overheat. Could this be the case??? *** See attached photo *** Once I have everything worked out, I will add photos to help others Is the pin out connection correct on on this post? Post #54 on this thread Quote:
Info: 2023 BMW X5 45e with tow package RV 2022 Airstream Bambi 22FB Redarc Tow-Pro Elite Trailer Brake Controller - 2 Braking Modes - 1 to 3 Axles - Proportional Tekonsha Plug-In Wiring Adapter for Electric Brake Controllers - BMW from etrailer.com |
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09-27-2022, 07:37 AM | #142 |
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Just read all 7 pages of the thread. I am lucky enough to have the OEM tow package. If pulling a trailer with brakes I need to do the following correct?
1. Fish out the harness under the steering wheel 2. Order a male coupling from Porsche or another source 3. Buy a redarc brake controller, extract the wires and switch them around according to pinout 4. Mount controller somewhere and call it a day. Is the BMW pretty good at managing the brakes using the controller pretty good. It is so surprising BMW sells you something at build and then doesn't provide a plug and play controller after. It's like this is a way to get out of a warranty claim or preventing people from pulling and making one rather :/ P.S - Do I need to activate 'Trailer Mode' in the iDrive when pulling? |
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09-27-2022, 10:34 AM | #143 | |
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- If you pull a trailer above a certain weight, for example 1500 lbs in California, you are required to have trailer brakes. Below that weight threshold (in CA), use of trailer brakes is not required. - If you pull a trailer with surge brakes (most small boat trailers) then an electronic brake controller is not used. - If you pull a trailer with with electric brakes above the specified weight requirement (for your State or vehicle) then yes, you will need an electronic brake controller. |
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09-27-2022, 02:53 PM | #144 | |
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However, is better, easier and cheaper to buy the BMW / Porsche connector + pins and wire to Redarc controller following the BMW pin sequence. I will take some photos when installing mine. Connectors and pins are due mid October. Trailer mode is automatically activated when 7-pin / 4-pin connector is plugged in. Also reading BMW manual, for weight distribution hitch setup you can disable automatic leveling suspension to adjust the WDH and then turn back on |
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09-27-2022, 03:22 PM | #145 |
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All electronic brake controllers need to be calibrated to the weight, orientation, and brake sensitivity. Once that is done, unless your tires wear or age significantly, OR the weight of the trailer changes, you don't normally need to adjust it. With the OEM towing package, the stability logic will (or should!) detect the advent of trailer sway and automatically brake, but it's a good idea to have the manual brake button readily available.
If you only tow one trailer, I'd consider the Autowbrake controller...it goes in the trailer rather than in the vehicle, but it costs more. https://getautowbrake.com/ If you keep the trailer, and move to a new vehicle, it's already in the trailer so you don't have to install one in the vehicle. |
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10-05-2022, 11:52 AM | #146 | |
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I was in your position 15 years ago. Needed to tow a trailer and couldn't find a mating BMW connector. So I implemented a "$2, 2-minute temporary fix" late in the night. I cut off the BMW connector used standard inline push pins (available from any hardware or electrical supply) I tucked the temporary connectors up behind the lower dash cover and used the connector on the back of the brake controller to install and remove the controller. But you could easily disconnect at the push pin if you wanted to. Moral of the story, since you have to change the order of the wires anyways, you can use any type of mating connector you want simply by cutting off the BMW factory connector. Like everyone else I would have preferred to have the correct matching connector, but the quick fix worked fine for the next 15 years I owned that X5! Last edited by nordring; 10-05-2022 at 12:18 PM.. |
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10-05-2022, 10:36 PM | #147 |
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^Thanks, that’s another way of doing it, I just didn’t want to cut the car connector. Also, is somewhat hard to work there due to awkward position
So far I haven’t received the mating connector and pins from ECS (due mid October), but I will be using a wireless trailer brake controller to get the trailer moved |
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11-08-2022, 05:21 PM | #149 |
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The least expensive option is to wire one in, but there are at least three others, two wireless, and one self-contained that can provide the electronic braking so you don't need to do anything in the vehicle at all. Curt and Tekonsha make wireless controllers that just plug in, then you need to calibrate them to the weight of the trailer. AutowBrake gets wired into the trailer's wiring, and becomes passive if it detects a different brake controller feeding the trailer. The advantage there is it will work with any tow vehicle, whether they have an electronic brake controller, or not.
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11-08-2022, 06:29 PM | #150 | |
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I will post tonight all the pictures. The hardest part was plugging (male to female) in the connector as there is little room, no joking … it took me a good 15 minute. The 2nd part was where to mount the main Redarc controller. Last month I had to use Curt Echo Wireless Trailer Brake Controller and it worked well, but I prefer wired for simplicity and peace of mind |
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11-08-2022, 09:42 PM | #151 |
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I'm adding this post and photos to help others who want to go with wired trailer brake controller (g05 X5 with towing package)
Some summary from previous posts: The pin out of the connection from BMW connector is as follows: Brown = Ground Blue = To trailers brakes Red w/stripe = +12v battery Black w/stripe = 12v brake light trigger your brake controller connector must match the same sequence (post #54 on this thread) I got my matching BMW pin housing and pins from ECS but you can get from other websites (pelican porsche parts). The pin housing is shared with porsche cars. Pin housing: Mfg Part # 99965275840 ECS Part # ES#1512776 https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...g/99965275840/ Circular Contact 1.0mm-2.5mm: Mfg Part # 61131376193 https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...m/61131376193/ Redarc Tow-Pro Elite Trailer Brake Controller - 2 Braking Modes - 1 to 3 Axles - Proportional https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Bra...c/RED44FR.html I used Scotch double tape Velcro (stuff that holds the I-pass on windshield) and positioned the controller horizontal. There is limited flat space to mount the controller. I used the same tape for knob controller. Since my trailer is in storage, I followed Redarc's method of testing the brake controller. I used an old car bulb 12V 21W. Also, there are 7-pin tester on etrailer.com if you want something already made. https://www.redarc.com.au/how-to-test-tow-pro Last edited by Di3s3l_Power; 11-08-2022 at 09:55 PM.. |
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11-08-2022, 09:50 PM | #152 |
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Curt Echo wireless (phone Bluetooth) worked well, the issue is the device is not powerful (amps rated) enough to charge trailer (RV) battery
Another option is trailer mounted brake controller like Tekonsha 902502 Prodigy RF , if you have enough space. In my case the weight distribution bracket was on the way |
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02-08-2023, 09:49 PM | #153 |
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The setting must be in accordance with the size of the load and the trailer. To ensure that the trailer can slow down or stop safely and smoothly, this is done. For various autos, different settings are needed. The size of the load continues to have an impact on the parameters. However, the starting position that was advised for the trailer brake controller was "6."
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02-12-2023, 04:39 PM | #154 |
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Di3s3l_Power Thanks for the detailed pics on the Redarc install.
Did you you need to install the Redarc diode? (https://www.redarcelectronics.com/us...ed-power-diode) After installing my Redarc Tow-Pro Elite I'm receiving a center brake light malfunction warning on my car. I believe pressing the manual override button of the Redarc is causing the brake lights to backfeed the system. Just wondering if you ran into this problem. I believe the diode was designed to fix this problem, but installing the diode would require knowing where the center mount height stop light (CMHSL) wire is. |
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