[2023G87M2]

So I've been constantly attacked by Elon fan boys for just pointing out the obvious that he's lying about Mars, full self driving, and so many other things just to hype up his products, make his greedy poor followers invest more money in his fraudulent companies, (including tesla), so only Musk gets rich. Not to mention in 2013 he said he would be the first to invest in tesla ans the last to sell his shares. Unfortunately he has sold around $50 billion worth of shares already. He has over 1200 lawsuits many of them HUGE. Just a single lawsuit about his idiocy with dogecoin by going on SNL and saying "it's a hustle", is for over $287 billion. It seems only now the least diehard fans are beginning to understand he's not playing "10d chess", but is 5 steps behind and only his employees whom he rage fires or who suffer sexual or racial abuse do work to barely avoid total collapse and bankruptcy.

But I wanted to talk about full self driving. Musk has promised it for YEARS now like 7 years each year saying "this year it will be ready" scamming so many to buy it, or saying even a 2013 tesla has the hardware for FSD which is bs.

Here's a chart showing where tesla ranks in even assisted driving.

Number of miles before disengagement



As you can see teslas only go 3 miles on average before disengaging.

Which brands have best assisted driving


Ford and bmw rank high in this but tesla is awful.

Not to mention the horrible build quality, consumer reports naming tesla worst brand to buy.

It's astonishing people buy teslas. I mean this guy saw a formula 1 "steering wheel" and thought "hey let's put it in the tesla and make it mandatory because it will look like a race car", in a 4500lb+ car with no handling or braking prowess.

To anyone who owns teslas here. Are they even worth it? It just seems obvious now everything Elon does is for his own benefit. He spends $0 of his own money and tax payers have to pay up for this douche bag to play with other people's money in bs scam companies that he hypes up and lies, and his fanboys are young gullible kids who think if they just worship him enough they'll become billionaires too. Not to mention musk didn't start tesla, didn't start PayPal, etc. Just type in common sense skeptic musk on youtube you'll see.

[SoCal_NSX]

awesome! just what we needed!!! another I hate Tesla thread....there isn't enough of them on here

[FC4]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Germanauto]

Lol I used to work for Tesla a decade ago. I understand the appeal of their cars but it just isn't for me. Now that there are more players in the EV segment, the only remaining advantages for Tesla are supercharger network and maybe price?

It's funny how the demographic changes depending on location. Anyplace I've lived it's always been techie nerds/people who view cars as appliances driving them. Now I'm in LA and they are the biggest pricks on the road alongside BMW drivers. I think both brands attract the same wannabe flexing/narcissist crowd here.

[GuidoK]

Interesting to start such a polarizing thread for a member that registred this month and has only 8 posts, over half ranting about EV's.

Sometimes you wonder why people register at forums....

[Nachbar]

Originally Posted by guidok

interesting to start such a polarizing thread for a member that registred this month and has only 8 posts, over half ranting about ev's.

Sometimes you wonder why people register at forums....

🚨 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

yall really wild to be creating burner accounts to stir the pot on bimmerpost. how old are yall

[RM7]

Originally Posted by 2023G87M2

So I've been constantly attacked by Elon fan boys for just pointing out the obvious that he's lying about Mars, full self driving, and so many other things just to hype up his products, make his greedy poor followers invest more money in his fraudulent companies, (including tesla), so only Musk gets rich. Not to mention in 2013 he said he would be the first to invest in tesla ans the last to sell his shares. Unfortunately he has sold around $50 billion worth of shares already. He has over 1200 lawsuits many of them HUGE. Just a single lawsuit about his idiocy with dogecoin by going on SNL and saying "it's a hustle", is for over $287 billion. It seems only now the least diehard fans are beginning to understand he's not playing "10d chess", but is 5 steps behind and only his employees whom he rage fires or who suffer sexual or racial abuse do work to barely avoid total collapse and bankruptcy.

But I wanted to talk about full self driving. Musk has promised it for YEARS now like 7 years each year saying "this year it will be ready" scamming so many to buy it, or saying even a 2013 tesla has the hardware for FSD which is bs.

Here's a chart showing where tesla ranks in even assisted driving.

Number of miles before disengagement



As you can see teslas only go 3 miles on average before disengaging.

Which brands have best assisted driving


Ford and bmw rank high in this but tesla is awful.

Not to mention the horrible build quality, consumer reports naming tesla worst brand to buy.

It's astonishing people buy teslas. I mean this guy saw a formula 1 "steering wheel" and thought "hey let's put it in the tesla and make it mandatory because it will look like a race car", in a 4500lb+ car with no handling or braking prowess.

To anyone who owns teslas here. Are they even worth it? It just seems obvious now everything Elon does is for his own benefit. He spends $0 of his own money and tax payers have to pay up for this douche bag to play with other people's money in bs scam companies that he hypes up and lies, and his fanboys are young gullible kids who think if they just worship him enough they'll become billionaires too. Not to mention musk didn't start tesla, didn't start PayPal, etc. Just type in common sense skeptic musk on youtube you'll see.

OMG! Are you going to be ok!?

[OkieSnuffBox]

I'm really starting to think some of you need to hate Tesla just to get aroused anymore.

[yousefnjr]

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Elon fanboys are definitely insane.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Interesting to start such a polarizing thread for a member that registred this month and has only 8 posts, over half ranting about EV's.

Sometimes you wonder why people register at forums....

To be fair they aren't the typical EV hate person which argue with no facts and no objectivity which I also despise and agree with you you.

In this case, they are just calling out Elon's bullshit that's all which I definitely agree with. It's just so annoying having him lie and bullshit his way through and no one bats an eye.

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

I'm really starting to think some of you need to hate Tesla just to get aroused anymore.

You consider someone making a post to talk about Elon Musk's accountability and the lies and bullshit he has said in the past is hating on Tesla? Sorry not sure I follow.

[epicaccord]

Tesla stock is the way to go.

[jkoral]

Originally Posted by 2023G87M2

But I wanted to talk about full self driving. Musk has promised it for YEARS now like 7 years each year saying "this year it will be ready" scamming so many to buy it...

Ha, just saw this clip today: (Disclaimer - I have not participated in any EV threads)

[2023G87M2]

Originally Posted by jkoral

Ha, just saw this clip today: (Disclaimer - I have not participated in any EV threads)

Funny the Elon lovers are too gullible to see rifht through the bs. After the 2nd or third time he says it, anyone with 1/1,000,000th of half a brain cut in half would realize it's just bs to bring in investors and gullible fools to purchase his gargabe and enrich himself

Look what he did with Twitter lmao. How do ppl not see through the non sense

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

To be fair they aren't the typical EV hate person which argue with no facts and no objectivity which I also despise and agree with you you.

My point was that I would register at a BMW forum to mainly talk about BMW's
Not about Tesla's, but that's what he mainly does with the little number of posts he has and the limited time he has been here.
And btw I don't see facts nor objectivity in his startpost, just read his first sentence alone...
But despite that, it's a bit like register here to talk about watches just because there's a watch section here.

And if this is a burner account as described here, that would be against the policy I think.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

You consider someone making a post to talk about Elon Musk's accountability and the lies and bullshit he has said in the past is hating on Tesla? Sorry not sure I follow.

The fact that you guys need multiple threads with which to do it in?

[BGM-M3COMP]

He he

[pikkagtr]

Calling a Tesla a luxury car is like saying you've met an honest politician

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

Calling a Tesla a luxury car is like saying you've met an honest politician

Using the justification that Tesla is luxury because of it's price point and that is serves a niche market, Jeep and Dodge are luxury too.

[pikkagtr]

Originally Posted by chad86tsi

Using the justification that Tesla is luxury because of it's price point and that is serves a niche market, Jeep and Dodge are luxury too.

Don't forget Cummins diesel Ram 3500 HD
Went to the silicon valley auto show and there was a Ram 3500 dually MSRP for 90$k
Definitely price point + niche market qualify it as a luxury truck

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

The fact that you guys need multiple threads with which to do it in?

Sorry this is the first time I post on a Tesla/Musk related thread . Just saw the thread pop up under "new posts" and decided to take a look.