M Sport 50i - the final straw.

Charles549 · 03-11-2019, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by avi8tir

Polarized sunglasses, perhaps?

Yes sir, polarized sunglasses. The first year that happened I though OK they screwed up, they'll fix it next model. No cigar. It was that way for a long time.

TurtleBoy · 03-11-2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles549

Yes sir, polarized sunglasses. The first year that happened I though OK they screwed up, they'll fix it next model. No cigar. It was that way for a long time.

BMW has some great engineering but highly doubt they can change the physics of light reflection and polarization of lenses. You can't wear polarize lenses and expect many HUDs/Info Screens to perform as normal.

Wild Blue · 03-11-2019, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

BMW has some great engineering but highly doubt they can change the physics of light reflection and polarization of lenses. You can't wear polarize lenses and expect many HUDs/Info Screens to perform as normal.

This is true. As vehicles get more and more advanced, this will get even more prevalent. As a pilot, I am prohibited from wearing polarized shades, as it may interfere with my ability to read the instruments and control the airplane.

Unless you have a severe medical condition, such as a uncontrollable aversion to sunlight, I highly recommend using non-polarized shades. They can do almost the same job.

MystroX5 · 03-11-2019, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild Blue

This is true. As vehicles get more and more advanced, this will get even more prevalent. As a pilot, I am prohibited from wearing polarized shades, as it may interfere with my ability to read the instruments and control the airplane.

Unless you have a severe medical condition, such as a uncontrollable aversion to sunlight, I highly recommend using non-polarized shades. They can do almost the same job.

You are correct. This is nothing new with polarized lenses. It’s very common for most displays used for public use like ATM, Gas pumps, etc.. that require you to remove your polarized glasses. I have a prescription pair of wraparound shades that are polarized and they reduce the BMW HUD display brightness by about 60%. In an still make out the info enough and the display is not as crisp.

X5_CC · 03-11-2019, 05:30 PM

Polarized lenses only block light from LCD panels at a certain angle. You can see this by putting your lens up to an LCD panel and rotating it. At a certain angle, the display will completely black out, while at other angles it will be visible but just dimmed due to tinting of the lens. This means that designers need only orient the LCD panel in a certain direction so that it is not at that critical angle to the typical orientation of a driver's sunglasses. BMW should have fixed this after the first mistake.

mnx5er · 03-11-2019, 08:02 PM

Can’t be fixed from what I’ve read. Has to do with how the light needs to be shifted on the windshield. You can fix a direct view LED but not a reflected one on glass. There is a detailed explanation out the somewhere. Bummer since I like my polarized glasses.

sygazelle · 03-11-2019, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by X5_CC

Polarized lenses only block light from LCD panels at a certain angle. You can see this by putting your lens up to an LCD panel and rotating it. At a certain angle, the display will completely black out, while at other angles it will be visible but just dimmed due to tinting of the lens. This means that designers need only orient the LCD panel in a certain direction so that it is not at that critical angle to the typical orientation of a driver's sunglasses. BMW should have fixed this after the first mistake.

Blaming BMW for the fact that HUD cannot be seen as well with polorized glasses?

I think it's a light science thing, not a BMW thing.

I have HUD since 2013. 10 second search on Google led me to buy non-polorized sunglasses. Problem solved.

X5_CC · 03-11-2019, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sygazelle

Blaming BMW for the fact that HUD cannot be seen as well with polorized glasses?

I think it's a light science thing, not a BMW thing.

I have HUD since 2013. 10 second search on Google led me to buy non-polorized sunglasses. Problem solved.

OP was talking about radio, not HUD.

sygazelle · 03-12-2019, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by X5_CC

OP was talking about radio, not HUD.

It's a related issue and certainly not BMW's fault in my view. I found this interesting short article from Road & Track describing the problem and then recommending Randolph sunglasses.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...aring-problem/

Edit: I just found these on Amazon. The reviews are outstanding. They are the real deal with actual glass lenses. Want to be a fighter pilot? Buy these glasses!

At $219, I've got to think about it because I'm forever losing my sunglasses. Several cheap pairs are better for me.

https://www.amazon.com/Randolph-Avia...ustomerReviews

eskayo · 03-12-2019, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MystroX5

You are correct. This is nothing new with polarized lenses. It’s very common for most displays used for public use like ATM, Gas pumps, etc.. that require you to remove your polarized glasses. I have a prescription pair of wraparound shades that are polarized and they reduce the BMW HUD display brightness by about 60%. In an still make out the info enough and the display is not as crisp.

Have you tried rotating the HUD?

Bimar · 03-12-2019, 02:22 PM

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I think this is trolling...please post pics of your Bmw and Merc..i can not belive you a word.

fgoody · 03-12-2019, 05:54 PM

That lane assist needs to be fixed, I have 1,200 miles on the car and yesterday I experienced this for the first time, the lane assisted came out of out of nowhere when I was exiting off the freeway almost caused a scary accident. I also own a Tesla and other newer vehicles with similar technology, but the software on the X5 is poor at best. The lane assist needs to be much more gentle in the "assistance", when you going 50+ mph you cant jerk the steering wheel that aggressively, unless the car believes a collision is imminent. Overall the car is phenomenal, don't get me wrong, but the lane assist is not

Doc5513 · 03-12-2019, 06:16 PM

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That lane assist needs to be fixed, I have 1,200 miles on the car and yesterday I experienced this for the first time, the lane assisted came out of out of nowhere when I was exiting off the freeway almost caused a scary accident. I also own a Tesla and other newer vehicles with similar technology, but the software on the X5 is poor at best. The lane assist needs to be much more gentle in the "assistance", when you going 50+ mph you cant jerk the steering wheel that aggressively, unless the car believes a collision is imminent. Overall the car is phenomenal, don't get me wrong, but the lane assist is not

Did you use your turn signal as you exited ? One reason I turned off lane assist is because I often travel on roads with no one around and I don't need to use a turn signal. In those case the car pulls you back and that's not cool.

Charles549 · 03-12-2019, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deda

I think this is trolling...please post pics of your Bmw and Merc..i can not belive you a word.

I have a communication into Bimmerpost asking them to fix my account because it will not display images uploaded from my PC and I can't see how to do it using the iPad. I may try my Mac and see if that works.

After we get that sorted I will upload images of current vehicles as well as BMWs going back 20 years.

After that I will politely tell you to GFY and say goodby to this forum.

fgoody · 03-12-2019, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc5513

Did you use your turn signal as you exited ? One reason I turned off lane assist is because I often travel on roads with no one around and I don't need to use a turn signal. In those case the car pulls you back and that's not cool.

I did not signal, but next time I will.

TurtleBoy · 03-12-2019, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fgoody

That lane assist needs to be fixed, I have 1,200 miles on the car and yesterday I experienced this for the first time, the lane assisted came out of out of nowhere when I was exiting off the freeway almost caused a scary accident. I also own a Tesla and other newer vehicles with similar technology, but the software on the X5 is poor at best. The lane assist needs to be much more gentle in the "assistance", when you going 50+ mph you cant jerk the steering wheel that aggressively, unless the car believes a collision is imminent. Overall the car is phenomenal, don't get me wrong, but the lane assist is not

What level do you have it set to? I have mine set on medium and have not had a problem with it. Obviously it does try and steer you back into the lane but that is what it is supposed to do. A little pressure the opposite way and it immediately stops.

fgoody · 03-13-2019, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

What level do you have it set to? I have mine set on medium and have not had a problem with it. Obviously it does try and steer you back into the lane but that is what it is supposed to do. A little pressure the opposite way and it immediately stops.

I had it at medium before I lowered it but still keep it on, but on the first 1000 miles I had similar modest "assistance", but clearly I think the software needs some refinement.

Leaving · 03-14-2019, 09:28 AM

so why do you keep buying a bmw after another if you dislike them?

ThreeBimm · 03-14-2019, 03:43 PM

There is a known issue "this car feels unstable sometimes when I'm driving it". The same happens to me and I completely understand. It feels almost like the car is calibrating itself to the road and I'm not 100% in control.

According to my dealership, there is supposed to be a software fix in late March.

mnx5er · 03-14-2019, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThreeBimm

There is a known issue "this car feels unstable sometimes when I'm driving it". The same happens to me and I completely understand. It feels almost like the car is calibrating itself to the road and I'm not 100% in control.

According to my dealership, there is supposed to be a software fix in late March.

It is known in cold weather. Have you seen it in warmer weather?

Charles549 · 03-15-2019, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaving

so why do you keep buying a bmw after another if you dislike them?

Fair question. My nearly perfect wife has a preference for a BMW, I consider it actually to be an aversion to something new she has to become familiarized with.

I bought BMWs for myself until I bought myself a MB in 1999 and exclusively thereafter with the exception of some sports cars.

I'm sure you've heard the happy wife, happy life wisdom.

Charles549 · 03-15-2019, 01:35 PM

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The 1995 BMW 530 was the last BMW I bought for myself. First year they went to throttle by wire. The system sucked, throttle pedal did not operate smoothly, had it replaced, still sucked. Never got better.

The 2-16 Jag is the third car in garage and it's replacement is imminent.

And I do indeed have a MB 2018 S450V. Didn't bother to get it out of the garage. This car is amazing.

And, there's the wife's new 2019 BMW X5 50i. I'll stand by for a friendly apology from the guys calling me a troll.

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X5_CC Captain 289 Rep 668 Posts Drives: X5 40i Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Polarized lenses only block light from LCD panels at a certain angle. You can see this by putting your lens up to an LCD panel and rotating it. At a certain angle, the display will completely black out, while at other angles it will be visible but just dimmed due to tinting of the lens. This means that designers need only orient the LCD panel in a certain direction so that it is not at that critical angle to the typical orientation of a driver's sunglasses. BMW should have fixed this after the first mistake.
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mnx5er Captain 565 Rep 832 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW X5 3.5i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Minneapolis, MN iTrader: (0)	Can’t be fixed from what I’ve read. Has to do with how the light needs to be shifted on the windshield. You can fix a direct view LED but not a reflected one on glass. There is a detailed explanation out the somewhere. Bummer since I like my polarized glasses.
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fgoody New Member 5 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	That lane assist needs to be fixed, I have 1,200 miles on the car and yesterday I experienced this for the first time, the lane assisted came out of out of nowhere when I was exiting off the freeway almost caused a scary accident. I also own a Tesla and other newer vehicles with similar technology, but the software on the X5 is poor at best. The lane assist needs to be much more gentle in the "assistance", when you going 50+ mph you cant jerk the steering wheel that aggressively, unless the car believes a collision is imminent. Overall the car is phenomenal, don't get me wrong, but the lane assist is not
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Leaving Enlisted Member 15 Rep 44 Posts Drives: F48 M Sport Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: ES iTrader: (0)	so why do you keep buying a bmw after another if you dislike them?
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ThreeBimm Private First Class 13 Rep 177 Posts Drives: 325 xi Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	There is a known issue "this car feels unstable sometimes when I'm driving it". The same happens to me and I completely understand. It feels almost like the car is calibrating itself to the road and I'm not 100% in control. According to my dealership, there is supposed to be a software fix in late March.
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