[G05_galore]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...50e-phev-test/
This 50e is AS quick as the previous X5 m50i…..just absurd..and all of this performance can be had under $80k…this 50e can give the m340i a run for its money…and it is quicker than the x3 m40i.

[crackerjack15]

I'm getting 4.22 and 4.35 0-60 on mine. Deceptive. Plus the midrange acceleration is linear and smooth. The electric motor adds a lot of torque throughout the Powerband.

[Lionel Hutz]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

I'm getting 4.22 and 4.35 0-60 on mine. Deceptive. Plus the midrange acceleration is linear and smooth. The electric motor adds a lot of torque throughout the Powerband.

C&D doesn’t include rollout in their times which is why they’re always lower.

50e power is fantastic. TBH the electric motor alone has so much torque that I stay in pure EV nearly all the time.

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by Lionel Hutz

C&D doesn’t include rollout in their times which is why they’re always lower.

50e power is fantastic. TBH the electric motor alone has so much torque that I stay in pure EV nearly all the time.

I don't know if the draggy is calculating a rollout or not.

C&D says they do use rollout.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...hange-rollout/

[mmm50i]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

I don't know if the draggy is calculating a rollout or not.

C&D says they do use rollout.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...hange-rollout/

It displays both. Regular results shows with the 1ft rollout added. However, the 0-60(ft) time is with the 1ft rollout subtracted.

My god, what a beast the 50e is. It really can do it all!

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by mmm50i

It displays both. Regular results shows with the 1ft rollout added. However, the 0-60(ft) time is with the 1ft rollout subtracted.

My god, what a beast the 50e is. It really can do it all!

cobramite is gonna love this one…

But who needs an m60 with this level of performance . (Stirring the pot haha)

[Major-Zebra]

Originally Posted by Lionel Hutz

C&D doesn’t include rollout in their times which is why they’re always lower.

50e power is fantastic. TBH the electric motor alone has so much torque that I stay in pure EV nearly all the time.

Same here.

My default is electric only. I've driven almost 900 miles on my current dino-juice tank, which is still half full. My last fill up was early December, '23.

I love the 50e's performance!

[BlkGS]

The 50e is certainly quick, electric motors help that a lot and the B58 isn't exactly an anchor either. It's a shame they didn't combine the PHEV and the V8.

The real shame of the 50e is it's not allowed any of the other sporty stuff. You're saddled with air ride. No M adaptive dampers. No 4WS. Can it even get the active roll bars?

Once they get the reliability issues sorted outs gonna be pretty close to the sweet spot. I wouldn't be surprised if they add all the sporty suspension options in before the end of the run.

All that said, BMW has the best electrification strategy. They're offering the BEV models that people will largely not buy, but they're also offering regular ICE and PHEVs. PHEVs will become the dominant force in the automotive world in the next 5-10 years, as people realize how stupid a full BEV is. BMW is posed to succeed in that regard, assuming they can get their cost cutting under control and deliver value to consumers.

[TexAg91]

I’m surprised CD didn’t do their 75 MPH Real world highway driving test for MPG on the 50e. I’m interested to see if they get the same 26-27 MPG I’ve been seeing after the battery is depleted. Believe they have a more scientific method of actually measuring the weight of the fuel used.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

cobramite is gonna love this one…

But who needs an m60 with this level of performance . (Stirring the pot haha)

The good part is we will never know, or have to hear it, since he has been banned.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

The good part is we will never know since he has been banned.

Yikes! What did he do to finally warrant it?

[G05_galore]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

cobramite is gonna love this one…

But who needs an m60 with this level of performance . (Stirring the pot haha)

Haha, you can have the power of a m60, with the efficiency of the hybrid!

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by G05_galore

Haha, you can have the power of a m60, with the efficiency of the hybrid!

Agreed! The 50e is a very compelling total package for 10-15k cheaper.

[G05_galore]

Originally Posted by TexAg91

I’m surprised CD didn’t do their 75 MPH Real world highway driving test for MPG on the 50e. I’m interested to see if they get the same 26-27 MPG I’ve been seeing after the battery is depleted. Believe they have a more scientific method of actually measuring the weight of the fuel used.

Indeed, but from what I read, they do plan to do it soon.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Yikes! What did he do to finally warrant it?

He had been banned twice before and you agree to not create another account when you have been banned.

[915M]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

It's a shame they didn't combine the PHEV and the V8.

You can get XM for it!

However, I would rather have 60e with B56 instead of V8. For PHEV, electric power is more valuable than engine power.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

He had been banned twice before and you agree to not create another account when you have been banned.

Ah ok so it’s more that he got caught coming back!

[arRod1981]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

The 50e is certainly quick, electric motors help that a lot and the B58 isn't exactly an anchor either. It's a shame they didn't combine the PHEV and the V8.

The real shame of the 50e is it's not allowed any of the other sporty stuff. You're saddled with air ride. No M adaptive dampers. No 4WS. Can it even get the active roll bars?

Once they get the reliability issues sorted outs gonna be pretty close to the sweet spot. I wouldn't be surprised if they add all the sporty suspension options in before the end of the run.

All that said, BMW has the best electrification strategy. They're offering the BEV models that people will largely not buy, but they're also offering regular ICE and PHEVs. PHEVs will become the dominant force in the automotive world in the next 5-10 years, as people realize how stupid a full BEV is. BMW is posed to succeed in that regard, assuming they can get their cost cutting under control and deliver value to consumers.

Pretty sure you can get IAS on the 50e everywhere else besides the US.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by 915M

You can get XM for it!

However, I would rather have 60e with B56 instead of V8. For PHEV, electric power is more valuable than engine power.

The XM is the most disappointing vehicle in decades. It's hideous,overpriced, and slower than the X5M. I can't imagine who buys it outside of someone saying "I'd like you most expensive BMW please".

That said, I don't disagree about the Electric power being important for a PHEV. I'd argue it doesn't need to be crazy fast, but it needs to get to 80mph, it needs to be able to keep up with traffic, and everything else is sort of moot.

While you don't have to drive it all out all the time, I think the 50e is almost too quick for what I'd want for my wife, she doesn't need 0-60 under 4 seconds, she'd be fine with 0-60 in 7 seconds. She would care more about having a convenient wireless.charging pad for the car.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by TexAg91

I’m surprised CD didn’t do their 75 MPH Real world highway driving test for MPG on the 50e. I’m interested to see if they get the same 26-27 MPG I’ve been seeing after the battery is depleted. Believe they have a more scientific method of actually measuring the weight of the fuel used.

Isn’t this very trivial number, not hard to archive? Even 45e in sport mode with depleted usable, I can get there easily.

[tooloud10]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

The good part is we will never know, or have to hear it, since he has been banned.

Thanks to whomever made that happen. The guy couldn't handle the idea that anyone would buy a car that wasn't an M60i and identical to his preferred spec, and it dragged the whole forum down.

[tooloud10]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

The 50e is certainly quick, electric motors help that a lot and the B58 isn't exactly an anchor either. It's a shame they didn't combine the PHEV and the V8.

I'd be surprised if there was much of a market for a 2-row PHEV SUV with a V8.

The real shame of the 50e is it's not allowed any of the other sporty stuff. You're saddled with air ride. No M adaptive dampers. No 4WS. Can it even get the active roll bars?

It weighs as much as my Ford Raptor, so I think the air suspension is the perfect choice. It rides so nice!

Once they get the reliability issues sorted outs gonna be pretty close to the sweet spot. I wouldn't be surprised if they add all the sporty suspension options in before the end of the run.

I seriously doubt it.

Originally Posted by BlkGS

While you don't have to drive it all out all the time, I think the 50e is almost too quick for what I'd want for my wife, she doesn't need 0-60 under 4 seconds, she'd be fine with 0-60 in 7 seconds. She would care more about having a convenient wireless.charging pad for the car.

That's the thing, how many people really care about their midsize SUV daily driver accelerating or handling any better than the 50e does right now?

These things just aren't 'enthusiast' vehicles and I'd actually prefer they not go overboard to try to make them into one.