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      05-23-2018, 12:51 PM   #1
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NFL's New Policy on Player's/Personnel Kneeling During the National Anthem

I do not support kneeling on the field during the National Anthem so this new policy is fine with me. If you want to protest, stay in the locker room.
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Exactly. Too much focus one what entertainers to. There are far more important issues that need attention. They can lay down for all I care.
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^This, but you hardcore righties claim to want freedom and uphold the constitution yada yada yada, but you are ok with denying about the most basic one to these players because you don't like it? Very interesting.
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^This, but you hardcore righties claim to want freedom and uphold the constitution yada yada yada, but you are ok with denying about the most basic one to these players because you don't like it? Very interesting.
Nobody is denying their right to kneel.
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Nobody is denying their right to kneel.
They aren't? Sure looks like they are trying to and want them to. The NFL should of left this alone as they are only going to make this issue bigger and perpetuate it.

It's more of a freedom of speech thing/right to protest. For the record I'm not a fan of it, but I'm less of a fan the reaction to it from some groups and their responses.
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^This, but you hardcore righties claim to want freedom and uphold the constitution yada yada yada, but you are ok with denying about the most basic one to these players because you don't like it? Very interesting.
I think the NFL players can kneel, do backflips or dance during the anthem....I don't really care. However, the constitution (specifically the 1A) has to do with the squashing of free speech from the government. The NFL is entirely free to do whatever they want since they are a private entity.

The snowflakes melting down about a player taking a knee though was hilarious, though....I'll definitely miss that!
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They aren't? Sure looks like they are trying to and want them to. The NFL should of left this alone as they are only going to make this issue bigger and perpetuate it.

It's more of a freedom of speech thing/right to protest. For the record I'm not a fan of it, but I'm less of a fan the reaction to it from some groups and their responses.
The players can always kneel. If their cause isnít important enough to them to lose their job over, thatís on them. If they choose employment over kneeling, Iíd say they arenít very committed to the cause.
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The players can always kneel. If their cause isnít important enough to them to lose their job over, thatís on them. If they choose employment over kneeling, Iíd say they arenít very committed to the cause.
As you know the NFL job for a player is not like a regular job. If a star player kneels they ain't losing their job like a scrub player. Plus it'll open everyone up to litigation.
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I think the NFL players can kneel, do backflips or dance during the anthem....I don't really care. However, the constitution (specifically the 1A) has to do with the squashing of free speech from the government. The NFL is entirely free to do whatever they want since they are a private entity.

The snowflakes melting down about a player taking a knee though was hilarious, though....I'll definitely miss that!
True, but it is a basic part of being a citizen and it is very interesting to watch who is ok with it and who isn't. Agreed about the snowflake comment.
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True, but it is a basic part of being a citizen and it is very interesting to watch who is ok with it and who isn't. Agreed about the snowflake comment.
A basic part of being a citizen is certainly free speech, and also enduring the consequences (or benefits) of said free speech.
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As you know the NFL job for a player is not like a regular job. If a star player kneels they ain't losing their job like a scrub player. Plus it'll open everyone up to litigation.
If the nfl fines the team owner a million bucks a pop, they sure as shit will fire the guy. Star or not. Hopefully itíll be a big fine, and team policy will be that it comes out the players paychecks. Iím guessing itíll be a small fine, so the nfl can pretend they are doing something about it when they really arenít. Try to please everybody.
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How about the US govt stop paying for displays during NFL games while we're at it. If the owners want the military displays they should pay for it.
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How about the US govt stop paying for displays during NFL games while we're at it. If the owners want the military displays they should pay for it.
Itís for recruiting purposes. The military must think itís an effective means of marketing. Iíd have no problem with them not doing it though.
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How about the US govt stop paying for displays during NFL games while we're at it. If the owners want the military displays they should pay for it.
10000000% this.
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10000000% this.
These aren't displays. They are training flights.
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Itís for recruiting purposes. The military must think itís an effective means of marketing. Iíd have no problem with them not doing it though.
I never understood why the military is so involved with American sporting events. This makes perfect sense.
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If the nfl fines the team owner a million bucks a pop, they sure as shit will fire the guy. Star or not. Hopefully itíll be a big fine, and team policy will be that it comes out the players paychecks. Iím guessing itíll be a small fine, so the nfl can pretend they are doing something about it when they really arenít. Try to please everybody.
You've followed professional sports right?
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A basic part of being a citizen is certainly free speech, and also enduring the consequences (or benefits) of said free speech.
Also true, but we've seen how uneven those consequences are based on whatever. And you know how it works in pro sports.
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You've followed professional sports right?
Maybe 3 or 4 mill then. Should be a lot, in my opinion. But it wonít be, in my opinion.
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How about the US govt stop paying for displays during NFL games while we're at it. If the owners want the military displays they should pay for it.
It’s for recruiting purposes. The military must think it’s an effective means of marketing. I’d have no problem with them not doing it though.
I would like to recruit for my religion. May I have equal time as well, and I'd like the govt to pay for it.
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