[Tenac]

Originally Posted by mitch57

One scenario might be a car sitting at a light that gets "T-Boned" by another vehicle. Let's say the Bimmer catches on fire from the impact. Insurance investigator discovers that "ASS" has been disabled and that vehicles was running when it was T-Boned. Adjuster denies claim because he says car wouldn't have caught fire if the engine was off which it would have been with "ASS" enabled.

Maybe far fetched but would you want to be in that situation with your new car?

Most new cars have auto kill in case of impact. If that function fails or isn't triggered I think it would void what you are getting at.

[VTENGR]

Originally Posted by mitch57

One scenario might be a car sitting at a light that gets "T-Boned" by another vehicle. Let's say the Bimmer catches on fire from the impact. Insurance investigator discovers that "ASS" has been disabled and that vehicles was running when it was T-Boned. Adjuster denies claim because he says car wouldn't have caught fire if the engine was off which it would have been with "ASS" enabled.

Maybe far fetched but would you want to be in that situation with your new car?

But ASS is not a safety feature. It's sole purpose is to increase fuel economy.

Your hypothetical would mean that if someone got in a t-boned (or rear ended) and did not have ASS running, they would be denied a claim. Even though you have the freedom to turn it off every time your start the car.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by mitch57

One scenario might be a car sitting at a light that gets "T-Boned" by another vehicle. Let's say the Bimmer catches on fire from the impact. Insurance investigator discovers that "ASS" has been disabled and that vehicles was running when it was T-Boned. Adjuster denies claim because he says car wouldn't have caught fire if the engine was off which it would have been with "ASS" enabled.

Maybe far fetched but would you want to be in that situation with your new car?

In addition to what VTENGR said, even with ASS turned on the engine is sometimes running at a light. If, for example, you need power for climate control or the case in front of you moves a little the engine will start.

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by mitch57

One scenario might be a car sitting at a light that gets "T-Boned" by another vehicle. Let's say the Bimmer catches on fire from the impact. Insurance investigator discovers that "ASS" has been disabled and that vehicles was running when it was T-Boned. Adjuster denies claim because he says car wouldn't have caught fire if the engine was off which it would have been with "ASS" enabled.

Maybe far fetched but would you want to be in that situation with your new car?

If the car catches fire, the ECU's will burn and along with any custom configuration.

The other point people haven't picked on here is if config coding is so bad - why is there such a lack of security on accessing the cars ECUs?

I could argue that BMW is actually negligent by not providing secure enough access protocols to protect the vehicle's vital ECUs; especially those associated with safety. Even a simple "password" would have been good, maybe a rotating encryption protocol (like RSA), or better still 2-stage authentication.

As there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to protect the ECUs, I could also argue a "hacker" got it and did it without my knowledge.
Is that also far fetched?
..once the car leaves the scene of the accident on a tow truck, the car is out of my possession, how do we know it wasn't changed after the accident?

Not being argumentative guys, but if you are going to paint me scenarios for an Insurance company to screw me, there are so many mines in this minefield that any decent lawyer would have BMW or the Insurance company for breakfast, think about it....