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      04-18-2019, 12:50 PM   #1
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Adaptive Drive Mode Opinion

So like tittle says, I have been using adaptive drive mode now for about a week. I know not much time but curious if anyone else notices the same as I do. I may be overly simplifying what it actually does but this is what I can feel while driving.

Driving highway at steady pace I'm seeing estimated 20-23mpg instead of the comfort 17-19. Not sure if it is putting in eco mode or something? It is very consistent though.

When getting onto the freeway on ramp the throttle response is awesome, and shifts are better. Almost as if it was in sport.

Taking highway corners that show a stupid 45mph sign at 65mph feels more planted than typical comfort mode. Steering gets tight and accurate.

Is there anyway to just have this thing be always in adaptive and not mess with comfort or eco? I really believe I would simply rather have adaptive on all the time!
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Do you use Adaptive while you have your Nav running?

I've got rural winding roads and it really makes a difference with Nav running vs without in adaptive mode since "upcoming road sections are considered". It knows before I get there where it should do its thing.
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Adaptive mode is a mix of all of them and it changing all the time. It not only adapts to your driving style but also the upcoming roads (possibly only using navigation but not sure) hence what you feel on the on ramps and curves.

I would imagine you can have it coded to default to adaptive but that option is not native due to EPA standards and how the car was tested.
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Do you use Adaptive while you have your Nav running?

I've got rural winding roads and it really makes a difference with Nav running vs without in adaptive mode since "upcoming road sections are considered". It knows before I get there where it should do its thing.
No I have not had nav running yet. I will have to try.
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Do you use Adaptive while you have your Nav running?

I've got rural winding roads and it really makes a difference with Nav running vs without in adaptive mode since "upcoming road sections are considered". It knows before I get there where it should do its thing.
No I have not had nav running yet. I will have to try.
If you do the same route, you'll definitely see a difference. It's predictive to upcoming turns so you'll see if you use it on the same route with and without nav running.
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When you guys talk about nav running, do you mean have the map screen up, or an actual route guidance active?
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When you guys talk about nav running, do you mean have the map screen up, or an actual route guidance active?
Actual route guidance running. I know my way home from work but I use it so I get the most out of my fun twisty rural route home in adaptive mode. I wish my other cars had it.
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Do you use Adaptive while you have your Nav running?

I've got rural winding roads and it really makes a difference with Nav running vs without in adaptive mode since "upcoming road sections are considered". It knows before I get there where it should do its thing.
So if in adaptive mode and you have a destination set in Nav, does it slow you down for curves where it thinks your going to fast? And if Nav is not on or your in comfort mode, then it will not slow you down for curves? I assume you can override this by giving it a little gas.
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So if in adaptive mode and you have a destination set in Nav, does it slow you down for curves where it thinks your going to fast? And if Nav is not on or your in comfort mode, then it will not slow you down for curves? I assume you can override this by giving it a little gas.
It doesn't do braking or gas but rather makes changes to the suspension, throttle response, etc.
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It doesn't do braking or gas but rather makes changes to the suspension, throttle response, etc.
ok thanks. My Q7 will slow you down in a curve if you don't brake. I was wondering about this in the X5 since it hasn't done it. I am almost spoiled by the Q7 in this regard going into curves.
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Adaptive = a mix of comfort and Sport. It has a softer suspension and lighter steering when needed but can change both alongside transmission + engine response when you need it. I normally drive in adaptive so I'm used to how it performs. If I know the road is very rough I'll use comfort.
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ok thanks. My Q7 will slow you down in a curve if you don't brake. I was wondering about this in the X5 since it hasn't done it. I am almost spoiled by the Q7 in this regard going into curves.
no, it doesn't because the X5 handles better than a Q7. My SQ5 did the same thing and it was very annoying.
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ok thanks. My Q7 will slow you down in a curve if you don't brake. I was wondering about this in the X5 since it hasn't done it. I am almost spoiled by the Q7 in this regard going into curves.
That sounds terrible. It would take all the fun out of curves for me. Thankfully the X5 doesn't do that
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Adaptive = a mix of comfort and Sport. It has a softer suspension and lighter steering when needed but can change both alongside transmission + engine response when you need it. I normally drive in adaptive so I'm used to how it performs. If I know the road is very rough I'll use comfort.
Call me crazy but I've found on rough roads the dampers are able to adjust to softer setting than in comfort. I've tested at length and there is definitely a very subtle difference. Have you or anyone else noticed?
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Mine is the opposite, maybe a 50i thing
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So with air suspension + adaptive mode, does that mean system will shift height of car along with changing mode ? Like:

Comfort => Sport => comfort => ....
Level 3 => level 2 => Level 3 => ....
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Adaptive = a mix of comfort and Sport. It has a softer suspension and lighter steering when needed but can change both alongside transmission + engine response when you need it. I normally drive in adaptive so I'm used to how it performs. If I know the road is very rough I'll use comfort.
Call me crazy but I've found on rough roads the dampers are able to adjust to softer setting than in comfort. I've tested at length and there is definitely a very subtle difference. Have you or anyone else noticed?
I've noticed this too it also makes it easier for the wife to read and type on her phone while I'm driving in adaptive. It seems to keep the car more level. This is the case on our X5 40i m sport and X3 30i m sport. I stopped using comfort. I prefer the steering in adaptive or sport and have eco steering set to sport.
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I've noticed this too it also makes it easier for the wife to read and type on her phone while I'm driving in adaptive. It seems to keep the car more level. This is the case on our X5 40i m sport and X3 30i m sport. I stopped using comfort. I prefer the steering in adaptive or sport and have eco steering set to sport.
Ok, so I'm not the only one!
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Adaptive = a mix of comfort and Sport. It has a softer suspension and lighter steering when needed but can change both alongside transmission + engine response when you need it. I normally drive in adaptive so I'm used to how it performs. If I know the road is very rough I'll use comfort.
I tried Adaptive today after reading this thread and I love it. I would love it even more if it would go into Eco Mode when coasting and drop the RPM to 600. I hate Eco Pro generally on the acceleration side, but the coasting feature is nice. I'm wondering if there is any way to program that into Adaptive.
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So with air suspension + adaptive mode, does that mean system will shift height of car along with changing mode ? Like:

Comfort => Sport => comfort => ....
Level 3 => level 2 => Level 3 => ....
Electronic Damper Control (EDC) continuously controls the air suspension dampening which is adapted to road conditions.

Air suspension ride height follows it's own logic:
Normal (up to 87mph) > Dynamic (87-124) > Normal (up to 87mph)

Normal > Dynamic > Sport (over 124mph) > Dynamic > Normal


When driving without a preset program, the vehicle level is adapted automatically, depending on the speed. This reduces drag and increases the driving dynamics of the G05. If the various driving speeds are undercut, the previous ride height is set.

Dynamic level
If a driving speed of roughly 140 km/h (87 mph) is exceeded, the "Dynamic level" (–10 mm) is set. The "Dynamic level" cannot be approached manually and the driver is not notified about this ride height.

The following table shows the control strategy (hysteresis) of the dynamic level.

Speed Time Driving level
> 160 km/h (>100 mph) Direct lowering Dynamic level (–10 mm)
140 – 160 km/h (87–100 mph) > 170 s Dynamic level (–10 mm)
< 100 km/h (<62 mph) Direct raising Normal level (+/–0 mm)
100 – 120 km/h (62–75 mph) > 20 s Normal level (+/–0 mm)

Sport level
The "Sport level" is set above a driving speed of 200 km/h (124 mph). The Sport level can also be set manually by pressing the SPORT Driving Experience Control switch or the ride height rocker button, irrespective of the speed (from 0 to maximum speed). The LED on the ride height rocker button indicates which sport level is activated
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Mine is the opposite, maybe a 50i thing
I agree, adaptive not softer in 50i. Might be the M suspension?
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Mine is the opposite, maybe a 50i thing
I agree, adaptive not softer in 50i. Might be the M suspension?
it's tuned differently because the 50i is heavier and has a different weight distribution to name a few. I use adaptive a lot depending on where I am. I wish there was just a straight induvidual option like Audi has so I could do sport steering, adaptive suspension, sport + engine and comfort transmission
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