[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by TexAg91

Can you provide a link to your source for the halt in 50e production until March 2024? Was any explanation provided — that’s news to me so I must have missed it?

BMW has not announced anything, it is from people who had a build scheduled and now they are all, at least everyone who posted, pushed back to at least Week 10.

Edit: Here is the thread concerning it. A broker also says all their 50e's are pushed back and a member got word from their dealer that the regional manger said all 50e's are pushed back.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2069170

[cellarrat]

Whatever you do, do NOT consult ChatGPT for legal advice

[Major-Zebra]

OP, really sorry to hear your troubles!

Never a great feeling to be so excited about a car and to have the issues you're having.

I hope it gets sorted soon!

I have a 50e, took delivery on 10/27, and have put 5,000 miles on it.

So far I've had issues with the Apple CarPlay (fixed with SW update, performed by dealer) and an annoying rear seat rattle, which I'm taking to the dealership on 1/2 to get fixed.

Fortunately, that's it so far.

So while there are issues with the 50e, no doubt, there are also many 50e's rolling on the road with minimal to no issues.

[oh-robot-nyc]

Sorry to hear about the troubles OP, I’d be livid too. I’m in the well-behaving 50e camp, July production and 7500 miles so far, no issues and charging works great.

[apw2607]

Originally Posted by aakeller

This is exactly why I made this post. Save yourself the possible nightmare and go with the m60i. There are way too many issues with the batteries in the 50e and they need time to figure it out. I wish I could go back and order a 45i or m60i.

The V8 is likely to give you even more reliability misery.

[bandersen]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

That sucks. My 50e is an 11/23 build at 4,956 flawless miles so far. Fingers crossed.

Crackerjack - you got your car 3-4 weeks ago, and you have 5k miles already? Really?

[bandersen]

Originally Posted by apw2607

The V8 is likely to give you even more reliability misery.

Yes, I’m not understanding everyone switch to the M60. I’ve got the 2022 40, upgraded to the Mperformance exhaust, and it is simply awesome. Mainly highway miles, averaging 70,75 miles, an hour, and 23 to 24 miles to the gallon massive torque when I need it, and no potential V8 issues (which to be fair seem to have been solved in the past three years). But, for the price, I love my 40 and the performance exhaust!

[LDT]

Originally Posted by apw2607

The V8 is likely to give you even more reliability misery.

On the basis of what? Far, far more misery on Bimmerpost with the 50e. Far, far more misery on Rennlist with the ‘24 Cayenne Hybrid. I’ve had a bunch of 8 bangers over the years all of which were reliable incl. my M60i.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by bandersen

Yes, I’m not understanding everyone switch to the M60. I’ve got the 2022 40, upgraded to the Mperformance exhaust, and it is simply awesome. Mainly highway miles, averaging 70,75 miles, an hour, and 23 to 24 miles to the gallon massive torque when I need it, and no potential V8 issues (which to be fair seem to have been solved in the past three years). But, for the price, I love my 40 and the performance exhaust!

There is no logic for emotion. 😅

[LDT]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

There is no logic for emotion. 😅

And car guys/gals can rationalize anything.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by LDT

On the basis of what? Far, far more misery here with the 50e. Far, far more misery with the ‘24 Cayenne Hybrid. I’ve had a bunch of 8 bangers over the years all of which were reliable incl. my M60i.

It is not related s68 at all, but more of a historical reliability data. The last reliable V8 is probably date back to M62. Starting N62, N63, their long term reliability record isn’t great. I want to emphasize on long term tho. For most people here, keep car until warranty ends, definitely no concern.

[LDT]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

It is not related s68 at all, but more of a historical reliability data. The last reliable V8 is probably date back to M62. Starting N62, N63, their long term reliability record isn’t great. I want to emphasize on long term tho. For most people here, keep car until warranty ends, definitely no concern.

Understood. I had a V8 in my E70 and it was trouble free. Same in my 957 CayenneS and my C7 Audi S6. Guess I’ve been lucky.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by LDT

Understood. I had a V8 in my E70 and it was trouble free. Same in my 957 CayenneS and my C7 Audi S6. Guess I’ve been lucky.

My s62 is very good to me as well. Overall mileage is low, only 120k after 20 years. But quite a portion of these miles are hard track redline miles. So far so good. N.A. is also easier to maintained. I don’t own any modern turbo V8 tho.

[LDT]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

My s62 is very good to me as well. Overall mileage is low, only 120k after 20 years. But quite a portion of these miles are hard track redline miles. So far so good. N.A. is also easier to maintained. I don’t own any modern turbo V8 tho.

The ‘13 S6 turbo was the lag queen. As far as I’m concerned there is no turbo lag in the S68 but I’m no track rat. It’s time you got a modern turbo V8.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by LDT

It’s time you got a modern turbo V8.

They wil only be around for a few more years so get them while they are hot.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by LDT

The ‘13 S6 turbo was the lag queen. As far as I’m concerned there is no turbo lag in the S68 but I’m no track rat. It’s time you got a modern turbo V8.

Maybe this sounds crazy. My priority of a fun car is 1st manual, 2nd rwd. This combo may not be the fastest, it doesn’t have to be. Driver needs to know what he/she is doing to go fast. Auto, 600hp, awd, too easy. Hit gas paddle and go fast. My mom can be fast in one. Not my idea of fun.

My plan of getting 2nd V8 in my collection is a E46 inline6 to LS3 conversion. I got the e46, I also got LS3, just with 2 kids, not sure when I can start the project.

[cobramite]

Originally Posted by apw2607

The V8 is likely to give you even more reliability misery.

Absolutely no basis to make that statement about the S68, none what so ever.
There are more reports of 50e problems on this forum than you can count. I have yet to see a single one regarding the S68.

[cobramite]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

Maybe this sounds crazy. My priority of a fun car is 1st manual, 2nd rwd. This combo may not be the fastest, it doesn’t have to be. Driver needs to know what he/she is doing to go fast. Auto, 600hp, awd, too easy. Hit gas paddle and go fast. My mom can be fast in one. Not my idea of fun.

My plan of getting 2nd V8 in my collection is a E46 inline6 to LS3 conversion. I got the e46, I also got LS3, just with 2 kids, not sure when I can start the project.

Damn Dude, Wish I lived nearby, been turning wrenches my entire life and would love to help out with that project. LS3, what a great motor.
Family does comes first, you don't get a second chance on that one.

[spoodle]

Originally Posted by bandersen

Yes, I’m not understanding everyone switch to the M60. I’ve got the 2022 40, upgraded to the Mperformance exhaust, and it is simply awesome. Mainly highway miles, averaging 70,75 miles, an hour, and 23 to 24 miles to the gallon massive torque when I need it, and no potential V8 issues (which to be fair seem to have been solved in the past three years). But, for the price, I love my 40 and the performance exhaust!

For me, I like a big V8. I’ll miss them when they’re no longer available. I’ve owned a Mustang Shelby GT500, a V8 Mercedes GL550, a Grand Cherokee SRT, an Lexus GS430 - always went for the big engines - among others. This might well be my last V8 ever. The sound, the pull, the heaviness, it’s a visceral experience for me. But I grew up in a time of massive cars in the 70s and the excess of the 80s. Trans Am or Firebird, anyone? And I guess that’s stayed with me. I’ve also had cars with V6s that were powerful or had low enough gearing that the low end torque was great and it’s just not the same. My SA gave me a ride in an all electric Volvo and that thing accelerated like crazy - but that all electric off the line torque isn’t the only thing that moves me. Plus I can afford the M60 and the gas.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by cobramite

Absolutely no basis to make that statement about the S68, none what so ever.
There are more reports of 50e problems on this forum than you can count. I have yet to see a single one regarding the S68.

Also to add to this - do most of us here or most higher end bmw owners plan on keeping these cars to the point the v8 issues really come about? The way I’ve been going, I only care how the first 1yr lol. Maybe I’ll settle down at some point but it won’t ever be for longer than manufacturer warranty.

[tscharf]

I don't know, but I doubt anybody is doing any significant ICE R&D now. I wouldn't expect anything but tweaks to existing designs ... forever. Enjoy it while you have it. These may end up being the best ICE's ever made. They are pretty much miracles of mechanical engineering at this point with all the different engine components that can stand up for 100K to 200K miles.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by tscharf

I don't know, but I doubt anybody is doing any significant ICE R&D now. I wouldn't expect anything but tweaks to existing designs ... forever. Enjoy it while you have it. These may end up being the best ICE's ever made. They are pretty much miracles of mechanical engineering at this point with all the different engine components that can stand up for 100K to 200K miles.

Really 100k or 200k miles only?? You standard is low. 30 years ago, we have engine last longer than they with minimal attention.