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      12-19-2023, 03:13 PM   #3301
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Thank you!! He did not tell me about the 3k. Current buyrate is 5.2%
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      12-20-2023, 10:36 PM   #3302
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We're shopping for a dealer to order a 50e in Chicago area suburbs. Any input on what deals people are seeing for % off MSRP?
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      12-21-2023, 12:42 AM   #3303
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We're shopping for a dealer to order a 50e in Chicago area suburbs. Any input on what deals people are seeing for % off MSRP?
Check out Zeigler in Orland Park or Patrick in Schaumburg. Purchased a X5 M60i at 8.4% off in September (order placed August). Took exactly 4 weeks to arrive. Patrick had immediate allocation. Should be able to get a similar deal at Patrick for a 50e - at least 5% off plus incentives.

Laurel in Westmont surprised me as they were willing to go with 5% plus incentives but I pushed Patrick for more. Westmont often tries to get you to pick one off their lot but are willing to discount more if you choose to do so. Westmont also requires you to hand over the trade immediately even if you order one from them unless you're willing to take a hit when the day comes to finalize the deal.

Surpised that Bill Jacobs in Naperville did not want to negotiate much even though I had previously purchased/ordered three BMWs from them. Best service by far from Bill Jacobs regarding immediate loaners and professional SAs.

If you have a trade-in both Bill Jacobs and Patrick will allow you to keep your vehicle at the agreed upon price for 4 weeks while you wait for your order to arrive. Patrick was very fair about the trade - close to Carmax price. Bill Jacobs, on the other hand, will offer you a slightly lower price and really pushes you to find another way to sell your current vehicle (such as sell to Carmax) but you lose the tax break benefit for Illinois.

In the end went with Patrick in Schaumburg for the reasons listed above. Good luck.
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      12-21-2023, 01:23 AM   #3304
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Check out Zeigler in Orland Park or Patrick in Schaumburg. Purchased a X5 M60i at 8.4% off in September (order placed August). Took exactly 4 weeks to arrive. Patrick had immediate allocation. Should be able to get a similar deal at Patrick for a 50e - at least 5% off plus incentives.

Laurel in Westmont surprised me as they were willing to go with 5% plus incentives but I pushed Patrick for more. Westmont often tries to get you to pick one off their lot but are willing to discount more if you choose to do so. Westmont also requires you to hand over the trade immediately even if you order one from them unless you're willing to take a hit when the day comes to finalize the deal.

Surpised that Bill Jacobs in Naperville did not want to negotiate much even though I had previously purchased/ordered three BMWs from them. Best service by far from Bill Jacobs regarding immediate loaners and professional SAs.

If you have a trade-in both Bill Jacobs and Patrick will allow you to keep your vehicle at the agreed upon price for 4 weeks while you wait for your order to arrive. Patrick was very fair about the trade - close to Carmax price. Bill Jacobs, on the other hand, will offer you a slightly lower price and really pushes you to find another way to sell your current vehicle (such as sell to Carmax) but you lose the tax break benefit for Illinois.

In the end went with Patrick in Schaumburg for the reasons listed above. Good luck.
Good to know, thanks. Bill Jacobs was our first stop, as it's the closest. While the allure of them having lots of allocations is strong (and right now, at least, they are including an additional 7yr/100k powertrain warranty) - the sales staff was not impressive at all. We have been into Laurel at Westmont, much better sales staff and did seem more willing to make numbers work when we are ready to order - but as of this week, seems they may not have an available allocation until March. I'll have to check in on Patrick and see what I can find. We will be ordering, and ordering an Individual color, so we'll see what kind of deal I can get.
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      12-23-2023, 02:07 AM   #3305
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In general the 50e discounts are lower, in some cases non-existent, but in your area I have recently seen brokers in the 7/8% area.
Hi TB,

I'm in the market again for either a 50e or an XM... trying for Lease which I"ve not done before.
Can you tell me what the Residual, and MF are for a 50e and the XM at 12000 mile? If these will change on Jan 1 pls let me know that as well - if you know.
And what are the incentives for military + BMWFS return loyalty? Is that all I need? and - do the MF and RV vary by state ?
I gotta make a spread sheet and try to get a good deal in SoCal. I don't plan to go back to the LV dealers who bit me in the butt after my '21 car 'lemon'd'
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      12-23-2023, 09:34 AM   #3306
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Hi TB,

I'm in the market again for either a 50e or an XM... trying for Lease which I"ve not done before.
Can you tell me what the Residual, and MF are for a 50e and the XM at 12000 mile? If these will change on Jan 1 pls let me know that as well - if you know.
And what are the incentives for military + BMWFS return loyalty? Is that all I need? and - do the MF and RV vary by state ?
I gotta make a spread sheet and try to get a good deal in SoCal. I don't plan to go back to the LV dealers who bit me in the butt after my '21 car 'lemon'd'
cheers

Sorry to hear you have to go trough things again.

For the 50e it is .00180 and 51%. Military when leasing is $500, no lease credit and loyalty is $1,500.

I have not seen any current information on the XM other than military being $500.

Anything can change each month and MF's and incentives can vary by region.

Your best source for lease information is the Edmunds forums. They will give out information based on zip code (of the dealer).

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussio...and-prices/p13

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussio...als-and-prices
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      12-26-2023, 05:18 PM   #3307
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Any guesses on incentives for Jan '24? Status quo?
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      12-26-2023, 05:27 PM   #3308
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Any guesses on incentives for Jan '24? Status quo?
My guess would be very little to no change.
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My guess would be very little to no change.
Do anticipate hybrid sales increasing with the new IRS rebate changes?
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      12-26-2023, 09:19 PM   #3310
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Do anticipate hybrid sales increasing with the new IRS rebate changes?
Since we don’t know yet how many will qualify given the changes in the battery requirements it is tough to say. Assuming all that qualify now will continue (although last I saw that will not be the case) I would guess we would see a small uptick overall and no meaningful change for the 50e.
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      01-04-2024, 07:54 PM   #3311
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Has anybody had any luck with PNW dealers doing discount on M60i orders (I'm in central WA)? I'm fine traveling anywhere between WA, ID, OR, CA. So far, most are MSRP only I've talked to.

It would be really nice if I could get 5% + incentives like some I see here!
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      01-04-2024, 08:12 PM   #3312
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Good luck I’m in Oregon and I had to order out of state to get a discount
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      01-04-2024, 09:19 PM   #3313
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Has anybody had any luck with PNW dealers doing discount on M60i orders (I'm in central WA)? I'm fine traveling anywhere between WA, ID, OR, CA. So far, most are MSRP only I've talked to.

It would be really nice if I could get 5% + incentives like some I see here!
Deals are here in PNW. Happy to connect with my BMW contacts.

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      01-04-2024, 11:52 PM   #3314
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I had to use a car broker to get a deal outside the PNW, had to go East Coast. You might get 3-4% here but 8-10% back east, which is worth the shipping cost, btw this was for a X5M comp
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I had to use a car broker to get a deal outside the PNW, had to go East Coast. You might get 3-4% here but 8-10% back east, which is worth the shipping cost, btw this was for a X5M comp
Yes I did the exactly same back in 2013, flew overnight to NY and shipped car in covered trucking. Was much cheaper after paying shipping cost.

fast forward, for the last 7+ years, doing the same deals here in the west coast.
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      01-05-2024, 11:17 AM   #3316
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Hi guys,

So looks like bmw didn’t release any allocations for X5 M50, X5M, X6 M60, or X6M, basically all the V8s. I’ve been waiting for an allocation to get a new car, does anyone know if they’d release allocations for March?

This dealer I was talking to said if I placed d order, bmw will fulfill it once they see it’s been sitting but idk if that’s just a sales tactic or if it’s true. I don’t wanna be stuck with a dealer when allocations drop across multiple dealers.
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I had to use a car broker to get a deal outside the PNW, had to go East Coast. You might get 3-4% here but 8-10% back east, which is worth the shipping cost, btw this was for a X5M comp
What broker is that ? Contact please
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      01-06-2024, 03:23 AM   #3318
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Has anybody had any luck with PNW dealers doing discount on M60i orders (I'm in central WA)? I'm fine traveling anywhere between WA, ID, OR, CA. So far, most are MSRP only I've talked to.

It would be really nice if I could get 5% + incentives like some I see here!
I got email from BMW of Eugene in December saying 10% OFF on MSRP on I stock vehicles. You can try your luck there. I got my X5 40i from Kuni BMW(Portland) in December for almost 8% discount.
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      01-06-2024, 12:36 PM   #3319
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2024 X5 50E - last month (December) I cross shopped between Northern California and Phoenix,AZ for a build to order:
- Phoenix dealers offered 1-2% off on in stock and Customer Ordered and told me I was crazy to think I could get more off MSRP
- Northern California dealers offered 9% off on in stock and Customer Ordered..accepted!

Thanks to the info on this forum I knew to push for the near 10% range!
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We're shopping for a dealer to order a 50e in Chicago area suburbs. Any input on what deals people are seeing for % off MSRP?
I'm in the same market looking for the same vehicle. Did you end up ordering a 50e? If so, would you mind sharing where you ended up and % off MSRP?
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      01-06-2024, 09:23 PM   #3321
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I had to use a car broker to get a deal outside the PNW, had to go East Coast. You might get 3-4% here but 8-10% back east, which is worth the shipping cost, btw this was for a X5M comp

You got 10% off a 24 x5m comp?
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      01-07-2024, 12:52 AM   #3322
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No this was in 2021 but when deciding to either buy my 2021 or look for 2024, I was running into the same thing. Keeping the 2021 btw
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