Car starts to roll in D and R

SlowX6M · 02-06-2021, 11:41 PM

Just started to happen as of last week - when I put the car in D, R or even 1st gear and let off the brake pedal, the car starts to roll. It behaves pretty much like any regular car with automatic transmission. I owned this car for about 6 months, and a previous gen X6M for 3 years, and they always behaved like a DSG. I had to actually tap the gas pedal for the car to start moving.

I searched through all the settings, can't find anything that could cause such behavior. Am I missing anything, or is it a malfunction?

Alan l. · 02-06-2021, 11:59 PM

This has been normal operation since day 1 with my F95. Bmw changed the way it behaves compared to the previous generation.

Alan

SlowX6M · 02-07-2021, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

This has been normal operation since day 1 with my F95. Bmw changed the way it behaves compared to the previous generation.

Alan

Not for me, just started to happen sometime last week, before it behaved exactly like the last gen, essentially imitating DSG behavior.

Did they do some kind of over the air update?

nesrock@gmail.com · 02-07-2021, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowX6M

Not for me, just started to happen sometime last week, before it behaved exactly like the last gen, essentially imitating DSG behavior.

Did they do some kind of over the air update?

Turn the auto hold button back on. It is on your center council towards the rear of the car on the panel.

SlowX6M · 02-07-2021, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nesrock@gmail.com

Turn the auto hold button back on. It is on your center council towards the rear of the car on the panel.

Thats different, it engages hand brake automatically. On a flat surface the car did not used to roll without pressing on the gas pedal.

HMN · 02-07-2021, 03:11 AM

It usually happens when on a slight ramp. It happens to me all the time on my F86

SlowX6M · 02-07-2021, 10:59 AM

No ramp at all, the car starts to roll just like any regular car with automatic transmission with D engaged.

azn_fcuk · 02-07-2021, 12:31 PM

These arent the dual clutch tranny's unfortunately. These are normal automatic transmissions with torque converters

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SlowX6M · 02-07-2021, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by azn_fcuk

These arent the dual clutch tranny's unfortunately. These are normal automatic transmissions with torque converters

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Yes, I'm aware. I also have a 2018 M2 with true DSG, and my 2017 X6M and the 2021 X6M were always imitating DSG behavior, until last week. I'll call the dealer, this isn't normal.

HZX540e · 02-07-2021, 04:41 PM

This even in my 17' M3, the car pauses for a while then rolls back when stopped at an incline.

SlowX6M · 02-07-2021, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HZX540e

This even in my 17' M3, the car pauses for a while then rolls back when stopped at an incline.

Yeah, on incline it is supposed to roll due to gravity, on flat surface it should stay stationary until throttle is applied.

HZX540e · 02-07-2021, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowX6M

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Originally Posted by HZX540e

This even in my 17' M3, the car pauses for a while then rolls back when stopped at an incline.

Yeah, on incline it is supposed to roll due to gravity, on flat surface it should stay stationary until throttle is applied.

Even at the light on a pretty flat surface the transmission disengages at the slightest pull/push AFAIK

Xccelerate · 02-07-2021, 09:39 PM

Normal op for all transmissions will happen. Since you can't agree with any of us owners bring it in for service let the dealer state. "Operating as normal"

SlowX6M · 02-13-2021, 09:54 AM

Just verified in my friends 2018 X6M - when the car is in D on flat surface, it remains stationary on flat surface, and will actually roll backward if its on an incline and forward if on decline.

My car will start moving forward on flat surface, and even when on incline it will start rolling forward. I am pretty sure it did not behave like this when I first got it.

Alan l. · 02-13-2021, 10:38 AM

My 2018 acted like the DCT where it didn't creep forward and would roll back when you left off the brakes.

My 2020 X5M would creep forward once you let off the brakes on day 1 since i bought it. I even read it somewhere that this is one of the changes that BMW did to this gen but i can't find it. Did you look at your cars manual?

SlowX6M · 02-13-2021, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

My 2018 acted like the DCT where it didn't creep forward and would roll back when you left off the brakes.

My 2020 X5M would creep forward once you let off the brakes on day 1 since i bought it. I even read it somewhere that this is one of the changes that BMW did to this gen but i can't find it. Did you look at your cars manual?

I haven't looked at the manual, but I am pretty sure my 2021 behaved exactly like my old 2017, unless I am going crazy.

dds007 · 02-13-2021, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowX6M

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

My 2018 acted like the DCT where it didn't creep forward and would roll back when you left off the brakes.

My 2020 X5M would creep forward once you let off the brakes on day 1 since i bought it. I even read it somewhere that this is one of the changes that BMW did to this gen but i can't find it. Did you look at your cars manual?

I haven't looked at the manual, but I am pretty sure my 2021 behaved exactly like my old 2017, unless I am going crazy.

Pretty sure you are going crazy.

SlowX6M · 02-13-2021, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dds007

Pretty sure you are going crazy.

LOL, could be, especially that I almost always use the "Auto Hold" option.

HZX540e · 02-13-2021, 05:41 PM

My 2021 F95 rolls forward and backwards unless auto H is on.

BiGFather · 02-15-2021, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowX6M

No ramp at all, the car starts to roll just like any regular car with automatic transmission with D engaged.

It happened in all bmws i have had and in my x5mc also

SlowX6M · 02-15-2021, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BiGFather

It happened in all bmws i have had and in my x5mc also

It doesn't happen in BMWs with actual DCT/DSG transmission, such as my M2. My previous 2017 X6M with 8 speed used to imitate this behavior, and I believe my 2021 did as well, although I might have been using auto hold all this time, really can't remember.

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SlowX6M Lieutenant 288 Rep 593 Posts Drives: 2021 X6M, 2012 X5, 2018 M2 Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	No ramp at all, the car starts to roll just like any regular car with automatic transmission with D engaged.
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Xccelerate Back in a BMW 286 Rep 383 Posts Drives: 21 X5M Comp Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Normal op for all transmissions will happen. Since you can't agree with any of us owners bring it in for service let the dealer state. "Operating as normal" __________________ 21' Donington on Black X5M \| Comp \| Exec 11' 1M Coupe Valencia 6MT OEM+ 289 of 740
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SlowX6M Lieutenant 288 Rep 593 Posts Drives: 2021 X6M, 2012 X5, 2018 M2 Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Just verified in my friends 2018 X6M - when the car is in D on flat surface, it remains stationary on flat surface, and will actually roll backward if its on an incline and forward if on decline. My car will start moving forward on flat surface, and even when on incline it will start rolling forward. I am pretty sure it did not behave like this when I first got it.
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