Adaptive headlights getting approval

MOTOP · 11-15-2021, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchfin

I can't tell if you're genuinely asking or just shit posting.

Regardless, i just want to find out what these light would do for me if coded/enabled.

Mitchfin · 11-15-2021, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOP

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Originally Posted by Mitchfin

I can't tell if you're genuinely asking or just shit posting.

Regardless, i just want to find out what these light would do for me if coded/enabled.

This is probably the best visual example of adaptive headlights.

Chas8283 · 11-15-2021, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOP

Regardless, i just want to find out what these light would do for me if coded/enabled.

The tech blocks out high beams only from area ahead with either oncoming traffic or traffic you are following, all other areas remain lit by high beams. Result is better visibility for you since high beams otherwise remain on vs shutting off completely like they do today.

Demo below at 1:10.

Chas8283 · 11-15-2021, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchfin

This is probably the best visual example of adaptive headlights.

Yes - great video!

MOTOP · 11-15-2021, 02:31 PM

Thanks both, appreciate that.
So this benefits "the other driver" from what i can tell.

Mitchfin · 11-15-2021, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOP

Thanks both, appreciate that.
So this benefits "the other driver" from what i can tell.

It benefits everyone. You get to keep your brights on and see much more, much clearer and they get to not be blinded by it. Plus there's a wow factor when people in your car see it in action.

mobilejo · 11-15-2021, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOP

Thanks both, appreciate that.
So this benefits "the other driver" from what i can tell.

That depends - do you currently drive with your high beam left on even when there are other cars in front of you or oncoming?

If so, then this benefits other drivers as your high beam won't blind them anymore.

If not, then this benefits you, because now you can have high beam on when there are other cars in front of you or oncoming.

MOTOP · 11-15-2021, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilejo

That depends - do you currently drive with your high beam left on even when there are other cars in front of you or oncoming?

If so, then this benefits other drivers as your high beam won't blind them anymore.

If not, then this benefits you, because now you can have high beam on when there are other cars in front of you or oncoming.

True. That's the answer i was waiting for.
Now even i get it!

john1200c · 11-15-2021, 04:19 PM

So the remaining question is whether BMW will decode the "decode" on these. I hope so and I see no reason why they wouldn't....

MOTOP · 11-15-2021, 06:25 PM

This may be left up to the states.
Thus up to the dealers.

Our laws are complicated.
Feds may lift a restriction, but a state may be mandating it.

…and the other way around like with the dope.

e61it · 11-15-2021, 06:26 PM

Perhaps a benefit to all since it should lessen accidents due to helping to avoid blinding of oncoming vehicle's driver. Lot's of people light sensitive and modern high beams are temporarily blinding to many.

bandersen · 11-15-2021, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchfin

This is probably the best visual example of adaptive headlights.

wow...great video...thanks!

jad03060 · 11-15-2021, 06:38 PM

The hardware already exists and many people have already coded their US vehicles to enable it. So, from a cost basis, if it was done as part of an OTA update, it would cost BMW nothing...whether they do it or not, at least those the do change theirs to enable this, they'd no longer be illegal, so that's a benefit.

The basis of this is that you as a driver get more area illuminated, and while this works with the LED adaptive headlights, when coupled with the laser option, you get the advantage of longer distance as well. Now, the US lamp housing is slightly different, and is driven with a lower voltage so the lasers aren't as powerful as those used elsewhere, that part probably won't change.

FWIW, to get this to work involves actually removing a software module that inhibits it, then flipping some software switches to tell the existing system to enable the function...all possible with an OTA update, as I understand it, but if not, certainly at the dealership, but BMWUSA would then have to pay the mechanics for their time to do it. That may not get paid for...if they charged a reasonable fee, I'd have them do it if it isn't done OTA.

MOTOP · 11-15-2021, 06:51 PM

Careful with the “expert mode”, kids.
Don’t brick your trucks

TurtleBoy · 11-15-2021, 07:43 PM

It would be nice if they do but my guess is that it is unlikely they will code existing cars to have the anti-dazzle since the coding off of it is attached to the VIN.

Mitchfin · 11-15-2021, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

It would be nice if they do but my guess is that it is unlikely they will code existing cars to have the anti-dazzle since the coding off of it is attached to the VIN.

I see it being offered as a pay to play feature

Killramos · 11-15-2021, 08:58 PM

They altered those laws in Canada 2-3 years ago.

Still no anti dazzle lights from BMW. Mercedes, sure. Porsche, yup. BMW, nyet…

kingmonkeyjr · 11-15-2021, 09:03 PM

This can be coded for a mere $100 at any bmw coder ..

ksavostin · 11-15-2021, 09:46 PM

is this exist on bimmercode app? If no - why?

Mitchfin · 11-15-2021, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ksavostin

is this exist on bimmercode app? If no - why?

No it you need to remove the 5AP option code that basically tells the module to not use adaptive headlights. Code my bummer will remove it for $100

ksavostin · 11-15-2021, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchfin

No it you need to remove the 5AP option code that basically tells the module to not use adaptive headlights. Code my bummer will remove it for $100

these options?

Lighting Features
• Enable Anti-Dazzle High Beams (Vehicles with 552 Adaptive LED or 5AZ BMW Laserlights)
• Enable Variable Light Distribution (Vehicles with 552 Adaptive LED or 5AZ BMW Laserlights)

Mitchfin · 11-15-2021, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ksavostin

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Originally Posted by Mitchfin

No it you need to remove the 5AP option code that basically tells the module to not use adaptive headlights. Code my bummer will remove it for $100

these options?

Lighting Features
• Enable Anti-Dazzle High Beams (Vehicles with 552 Adaptive LED or 5AZ BMW Laserlights)
• Enable Variable Light Distribution (Vehicles with 552 Adaptive LED or 5AZ BMW Laserlights)

Those are the ones, I'd recommend having them do all the stuff you want done while they're coding that.

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jad03060 Major General 3153 Rep 6,786 Posts Drives: X5 45e Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NH iTrader: (0)	The hardware already exists and many people have already coded their US vehicles to enable it. So, from a cost basis, if it was done as part of an OTA update, it would cost BMW nothing...whether they do it or not, at least those the do change theirs to enable this, they'd no longer be illegal, so that's a benefit. The basis of this is that you as a driver get more area illuminated, and while this works with the LED adaptive headlights, when coupled with the laser option, you get the advantage of longer distance as well. Now, the US lamp housing is slightly different, and is driven with a lower voltage so the lasers aren't as powerful as those used elsewhere, that part probably won't change. FWIW, to get this to work involves actually removing a software module that inhibits it, then flipping some software switches to tell the existing system to enable the function...all possible with an OTA update, as I understand it, but if not, certainly at the dealership, but BMWUSA would then have to pay the mechanics for their time to do it. That may not get paid for...if they charged a reasonable fee, I'd have them do it if it isn't done OTA.
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