German M850i xDrive Coupe Priced at 125,700 EUR. What Could It Mean For U.S. Price?

///M Power-Belgium · 06-18-2018, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinboyblue

Why is it more expensive in EUR shouldnt it be cheaper?

*Nothing* is cheap here ,with our insane yearly driver taxes you should drive one over here

God bless Canada and America !

torzeck · 06-18-2018, 04:01 PM

Ok, no question this is a beautiful design, but why does someone buy this when they can buy a 911, an M4 or M5 or even a Tesla?

Also, when there are so many SUVs on the road these low coupes and sedans are...,well, just low and relatively impractical.

I know it may just be me, but I just don't get these larger coupes especially when they likely depreciate so quickly.

Teufel_Hunden · 06-18-2018, 04:01 PM

Buy CPO at 60% of the price of a new one.

Cyberbug · 06-18-2018, 04:20 PM

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Easy choice

M5

Easier choice

"Lightly" used M6

Better choice off lease M5....lol

Green///Hell · 06-18-2018, 04:33 PM

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And like all big BMW's it will depreciate at a very rapid rate

Got to pay to play, as a customer paying $130,000+ for vehicle has plenty of disposable $$ that depreciation is an afterthought. Need to lease so the depreciation is offset by BMWFS setting a artifical hight residual, after the intial sales peak by the early adapters in the 1% income bracket, there will need sales support like the 7 series has currently. A majority of the people who have posted "take all my money" upon the announcement on Friday will have sticker shock. Next there will be posts "I make $80,000 a year as a new college grad, can I afford the 8 series," that occurs in the F80 forum.

Lol at those I make x amount can I afford x car. I agree with you though we will probably see those posts. Then they'll try justifying it by calculating expenses and showing that a 2k lease fits in their monthly budget cause their rent is only 1k a month and etc.

Yeah these hot shot grads thinking they can afford a 6 figure car right out of school.

My mom always said your income should be double or more of what you want to buy. I know that doesn't apply to everything but for cars it definitely does.

Momma said that alligators are ornery cause they got all them teeth but no toothbrush.

Haha this is water boy level funny

But seriously, the closer this car gets into Porsche money....I'd go P Car every time. Just as impractical but with more sports car character

ice31 · 06-18-2018, 04:46 PM

So about 140k-150k€ with options. Steep.

dmboone25 · 06-18-2018, 05:25 PM

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If you look at the tech involved ... the price increase is justified.

Active aero - front fenders and grille
Active Front and Rear Anti Roll Bars
Four Wheel Steering
All Wheel Drive
Active M Differential

Only the last item was a feature in the last 6 series.

Also, I know it’s subjective but the new 8 looks better to me too. Well, except for the rear.

The M8’s ass has some Brazilian butt lifts to do.

dmboone25 · 06-18-2018, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ice31

So about 140k-150k€ with options. Steep.

Agreed...but M3s run into the 80k range now, so not surprising.

torzeck · 06-18-2018, 05:39 PM

Ok, no question this is a beautiful design, but why does someone buy this when they can buy a 911, an M4 or M5 or even a Tesla?

Also, when there are so many SUVs on the road these low coupes and sedans are...,well, just low and relatively impractical.

I know it may just be me, but I just don't get these larger coupes especially when they likely depreciate so quickly.

M3 Adjuster · 06-18-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by torzeck

Ok, no question this is a beautiful design, but why does someone buy this when they can buy a 911, an M4 or M5 or even a Tesla?

Also, when there are so many SUVs on the road these low coupes and sedans are...,well, just low and relatively impractical.

I know it may just be me, but I just don't get these larger coupes especially when they likely depreciate so quickly.

Because BMWs don't spontaneously catch on fire ? Except when being blessed...

sorry that you feel that these " low coupes and sedans " are low ( amazing!) and relatively impractical ( indeed - but why must ALL vehicles be practical ? !) however , believe it or not , BMW , Porsche and other companies haven't given up on making them. I don't see Porsche killing off the 911 (for you ) anytime soon ... and apparently BMW doesn't want Porsche , Audi and Mercedes to get all the action in the marketplace that you feel doesn't exist.

ice31 · 06-18-2018, 06:17 PM

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So about 140k-150k€ with options. Steep.

Agreed...but M3s run into the 80k range now, so not surprising.

Every time I build M3/4 on bmw.de it's around 100k€. So when you think about it, M850i is a bargain lol.

ice31 · 06-18-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

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Originally Posted by torzeck

Ok, no question this is a beautiful design, but why does someone buy this when they can buy a 911, an M4 or M5 or even a Tesla?

Also, when there are so many SUVs on the road these low coupes and sedans are...,well, just low and relatively impractical.

I know it may just be me, but I just don't get these larger coupes especially when they likely depreciate so quickly.

Because BMWs don't spontaneously catch on fire ? Except when being blessed...

sorry that you feel that these " low coupes and sedans " are low ( amazing!) and relatively impractical ( indeed - but why must ALL vehicles be practical ? !) however , believe it or not , BMW , Porsche and other companies haven't given up on making them.

I don't see Porsche killing off the 911 (for you ) anytime soon ... and apparently BMW doesn't want Porsche , Audi and Mercedes to get all the action in the marketplace that you feel doesn't exist.

Lmao, schooled.

ghaffari46 · 06-18-2018, 06:25 PM

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Easy choice

M5

Easier choice

"Lightly" used M6

Easiest choice;
A cpo m6 gran coupe!

Ibiza · 06-18-2018, 06:29 PM

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Even then that's not enough anymore. With student loans, even a big law first year at $180k can barely afford an F80 with rent, savings, and loan payments.

That's why you stay reasonable your 1st few years out of professional school (law or medical) and build up savings/equity, as I slowly worked my way up over the past 14 years from a 3/4 series convertible with a X3, then changed the X3 to X5, now have a M4 vert and X5M. I didn't do this straight out of professional school. Was also fortunate with zero student loans after a BS, professional degree and 2 master degrees, and I bought a new construction house upon graduation, now in house 2.5 times the original one.

My math is yes I can afford a M8 lease payment, as that would be an equivalent to my peers student loan monthly payment. The 2019 i8 roadster with MRSP $163,000 has a advertised monthly lease payment of $2,000 (sure I could get much lower than that)- still significantly less than half of my mortgage payment. Also, why I left NY strong island for the cheaper cost of living of costal Charleston, SC.

I don't see the M8 going higher than the i8 roadster, but you never know these days with BMW NA.

Thescout13 your cost of living in Cali on $180,000/year dosen't go far with the ridiculous cost of living and taxes.

Ibiza · 06-18-2018, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by torzeck

Ok, no question this is a beautiful design, but why does someone buy this when they can buy a 911, an M4 or M5 or even a Tesla?

Also, when there are so many SUVs on the road these low coupes and sedans are...,well, just low and relatively impractical.

I know it may just be me, but I just don't get these larger coupes especially when they likely depreciate so quickly.

That's why you get one of each, X M and M coupe/vert.

Law · 06-18-2018, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ghaffari46

Easiest choice;
A cpo m6 gran coupe!

Exactly what I was hinting. Best choice for the money.

Otherwise, I'd rather a P-car than the price of a new 8er.

Penguino · 06-18-2018, 08:21 PM

This needs to be a $80-$90k car. At $110k starting price I'm looking to a whole array of options.

M3 Adjuster · 06-18-2018, 08:51 PM

wow M technic is back...

Thescout13 · 06-18-2018, 09:00 PM

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Even then that's not enough anymore. With student loans, even a big law first year at $180k can barely afford an F80 with rent, savings, and loan payments.

That's why you stay reasonable your 1st few years out of professional school (law or medical) and build up savings/equity, as I slowly worked my way up over the past 14 years from a 3/4 series convertible with a X3, then changed the X3 to X5, now have a M4 vert and X5M. I didn't do this straight out of professional school. Was also fortunate with zero student loans after a BS, professional degree and 2 master degrees, and I bought a new construction house upon graduation, now in house 2.5 times the original one.

My math is yes I can afford a M8 lease payment, as that would be an equivalent to my peers student loan monthly payment. The 2019 i8 roadster with MRSP $163,000 has a advertised monthly lease payment of $2,000 (sure I could get much lower than that)- still significantly less than half of my mortgage payment. Also, why I left NY strong island for the cheaper cost of living of costal Charleston, SC.

I don't see the M8 going higher than the i8 roadster, but you never know these days with BMW NA.

Thescout13 your cost of living in Cali on $180,000/year dosen't go far with the ridiculous cost of living and taxes.

I'm in Texas now, and I haven't made first year big law salary in a long time now, but the pay scale is the same here and we have a first year who is debating whether he should get an Infiniti because "that would be a stretch" for him. Big student loan payments are no joke, luckily mine are relatively low.

But 100% agree re LA. That was terrible when I lived there, and terrible for people who live there now with student loans.

MightyMouseTech · 06-18-2018, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinboyblue

Why is it more expensive in EUR shouldnt it be cheaper?

The price of a car has nothing to do with how much it costs to build and deliver it.

Thescout13 · 06-18-2018, 09:39 PM

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Why is it more expensive in EUR shouldnt it be cheaper?

The price of a car has nothing to do with how much it costs to build and deliver it.

Not to mention CO2 taxes, local market conditions, etc

ORIGIN M. · 06-19-2018, 01:20 AM

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wow M technic is back...

Damn if you're correct.

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