741M wheels All season tire options. need advice!

ejung4 · 02-02-2023, 12:44 AM

Hi all,
As I don't want another set of winter rims and tires, space wise and putting the wheels on and off before and after winter. So I was looking for all season tires for my 741m wheels but as you already know the tire choice for 21 inch is horrible...
I can only find scorpion Verde front 275 40 21 and rear 315 35 21. Will it work fine?

Also I read some other threads that porches cayenne tire set up 285 40 21 and 315 35 21 for x5. Front is slightly wider but would it work?

I need a solution! I don't like RF summer tires...
Some people say 275 40 21 all season square set up on 741m wheels? Please help! Thank you

bloom · 02-02-2023, 06:47 AM

I just struggled with this and gave up.

I bought two front 741m rims to put on the rear and now run a square setup of 275 40 21 michelin pilot sport as4's

beware... no spare tire

ejung4 · 02-02-2023, 08:30 AM

Thanks bloom.. I never thought about that.
I actually laughed when you said you gave up.. this is so annoying I'm about to give up as well

Keithwand · 02-02-2023, 03:31 PM

Same here.
Changing to Conti DWS on my staggered 20 inch rims in my 2016x5 was so much improved. Quiet, smooth etc.
Now I too have the 21s on my 2022 and not going to 20s.
Currently 6,500 miles on the runflats.
Got 30k miles before changing on the 2016.
What are you getting mileage wise out of the original runflats before replacing?

White340 · 02-02-2023, 04:22 PM

I gave up and bought a pair of 740m 20” take offs for the winter.

So now I have a set of wheels/tires for both the m3 and x5 for the winters. I store them in my basement. M3 wheels are much easier to carry up and down compared to the x5’s gigantic and 80 lb wheels lol.

stratego · 02-03-2023, 10:36 AM

I put the 275/40 R21 tires on the rear wider wheels and it went fine.

I went with the Vredestein quatrac pros that are severe snow service rated. As a bonus, this size has snow socks available.

ejung4 · 02-03-2023, 08:24 PM

Alright so looks like people just buy 275 40 r21 front wheels and put it on the rear. Thanks for sharing your experiences Thank you all

slicky · 02-04-2023, 06:41 AM

I went with the Cayenne setup of 285/315.

kgelfen360 · 02-04-2023, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicky

I went with the Cayenne setup of 285/315.

Could you please provide exact tire and spec.
Thank you!!

kgelfen360 · 02-04-2023, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloom

I just struggled with this and gave up.

I bought two front 741m rims to put on the rear and now run a square setup of 275 40 21 michelin pilot sport as4's

beware... no spare tire

Where did u buy the wheels? They are pretty pricey from online OEM parts stores.

kgelfen360 · 02-04-2023, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejung4

Hi all,
As I don't want another set of winter rims and tires, space wise and putting the wheels on and off before and after winter. So I was looking for all season tires for my 741m wheels but as you already know the tire choice for 21 inch is horrible...
I can only find scorpion Verde front 275 40 21 and rear 315 35 21. Will it work fine?

Also I read some other threads that porches cayenne tire set up 285 40 21 and 315 35 21 for x5. Front is slightly wider but would it work?

I need a solution! I don't like RF summer tires...
Some people say 275 40 21 all season square set up on 741m wheels? Please help! Thank you

Yea I am thinking of just getting All Season Verde.
Even with Porsche set up I don’t see great all season option unless I am missing something?
Thank you

slicky · 02-04-2023, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgelfen360

Could you please provide exact tire and spec.
Thank you!!

285/40/21
315/35/21
1% difference in diameter.
Yokohama avid gt s35. Porsche spec.
$227 per front at a local discount tire.
$187 per rear at tirerack. 2018 production. One of the two they sent was 2022 production.

kgelfen360 · 02-04-2023, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicky

285/40/21
315/35/21
1% difference in diameter.
Yokohama avid gt s35. Porsche spec.
$227 per front at a local discount tire.
$187 per rear at tirerack. 2018 production. One of the two they sent was 2022 production.

I see thank you!
I haven’t seen those. I seen Michelin Pilot Sport SUV but those are summer as well.
Will keep looking. Thank you

ejung4 · 02-05-2023, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgelfen360

I see thank you!
I haven’t seen those. I seen Michelin Pilot Sport SUV but those are summer as well.
Will keep looking. Thank you

Please update me if you find anything.
Thank you

ejung4 · 02-05-2023, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgelfen360

I see thank you!
I haven’t seen those. I seen Michelin Pilot Sport SUV but those are summer as well.
Will keep looking. Thank you

Pirelli Verde has All season 275 40 21 and 315 35 21 what do you think about this one? Does load index matter? Front is 107v and rear is 111v tho

kgelfen360 · 02-05-2023, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejung4

Pirelli Verde has All season 275 40 21 and 315 35 21 what do you think about this one? Does load index matter? Front is 107v and rear is 111v tho

Yea I’ve seen those that’s basically the only option currently in that original tire size.
They have been mentioned on this forum in other threads. Seems like they are ok not great but I think it depends where you live. Like how much snow u dealing with.

slicky · 02-05-2023, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejung4

Pirelli Verde has All season 275 40 21 and 315 35 21 what do you think about this one? Does load index matter? Front is 107v and rear is 111v tho

They are horrible and very expensive.

jfischer339 · 02-06-2023, 04:21 PM

I went with the Avid GTS35A on rear and the geolander on the front. Avid were 183 each at tirerack and the geolandar were 280 on amazon. Ride is great. Picked up a small jack, patch repair and compressor to carry even though I have roadside with BMW and Insurance..
Rear:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

Front:
https://www.amazon.com/GEOLANDAR-X-C...2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

ejung4 · 02-06-2023, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfischer339

I went with the Avid GTS35A on rear and the geolander on the front. Avid were 183 each at tirerack and the geolandar were 280 on amazon. Ride is great. Picked up a small jack, patch repair and compressor to carry even though I have roadside with BMW and Insurance..
Rear:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

Front:
https://www.amazon.com/GEOLANDAR-X-C...2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

That's a good suggestion 👌 thanks a lot
I don't know if 295 35 21 geolander would fit on the rear rims I'm in Canada avid gt is unavailable and also I kinda want to match all tires

jfischer339 · 02-06-2023, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejung4

That's a good suggestion 👌 thanks a lot
I don't know if 295 35 21 geolander would fit on the rear rims I'm in Canada avid gt is unavailable and also I kinda want to match all tires

I was ok with the 2 both being yokohama since I was able to have 4 tires installed for the price of one Pirelli scorpion winter but totally understand. Use tiresize.com to check your sizes when you start making changes. You want your front and rear revs to be within 1 percent with xdrive. I was quite surprised tire prices on amazon of all places were cheaper than most.

slicky · 02-06-2023, 07:08 PM

I would not go mixing tires. They provide different traction characteristics and would result in unbalanced and potentially dangerous handling.

ejung4 · 02-06-2023, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicky

I would not go mixing tires. They provide different traction characteristics and would result in unbalanced and potentially dangerous handling.

Yes indeed.

I just found out that other folks actually up size their tire's sidewall by 5. New size 275 45 21 and 315 40 21since the difference is less than 1% seemed like it is working good. I probably will go with this option after more research

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ejung4 New Member 18 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW X5 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00]	741M wheels All season tire options. need advice! Hi all, As I don't want another set of winter rims and tires, space wise and putting the wheels on and off before and after winter. So I was looking for all season tires for my 741m wheels but as you already know the tire choice for 21 inch is horrible... I can only find scorpion Verde front 275 40 21 and rear 315 35 21. Will it work fine? Also I read some other threads that porches cayenne tire set up 285 40 21 and 315 35 21 for x5. Front is slightly wider but would it work? I need a solution! I don't like RF summer tires... Some people say 275 40 21 all season square set up on 741m wheels? Please help! Thank you
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bloom Enlisted Member 15 Rep 37 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: toronto iTrader: (0)	I just struggled with this and gave up. I bought two front 741m rims to put on the rear and now run a square setup of 275 40 21 michelin pilot sport as4's beware... no spare tire
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ejung4 New Member 18 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW X5 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00]	Thanks bloom.. I never thought about that. I actually laughed when you said you gave up.. this is so annoying I'm about to give up as well
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Keithwand First Lieutenant 106 Rep 381 Posts Drives: 22 X5 replaced 16 X5 6/22 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Lakewood Ranch FL iTrader: (0)	Same here. Changing to Conti DWS on my staggered 20 inch rims in my 2016x5 was so much improved. Quiet, smooth etc. Now I too have the 21s on my 2022 and not going to 20s. Currently 6,500 miles on the runflats. Got 30k miles before changing on the 2016. What are you getting mileage wise out of the original runflats before replacing?
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White340 Lieutenant Colonel 1393 Rep 1,987 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Comp / 2022 X5 45e Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC iTrader: (3)	I gave up and bought a pair of 740m 20” take offs for the winter. So now I have a set of wheels/tires for both the m3 and x5 for the winters. I store them in my basement. M3 wheels are much easier to carry up and down compared to the x5’s gigantic and 80 lb wheels lol. __________________ 2022 X5 45e : AW/Tartufo 2018 M3 Competition : AW/SO 2016 340i xDrive : AW/CR (sold)
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stratego New Member 2 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW X5 Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	I put the 275/40 R21 tires on the rear wider wheels and it went fine. I went with the Vredestein quatrac pros that are severe snow service rated. As a bonus, this size has snow socks available.
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ejung4 New Member 18 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW X5 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00]	Alright so looks like people just buy 275 40 r21 front wheels and put it on the rear. Thanks for sharing your experiences Thank you all
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slicky Second Lieutenant 122 Rep 208 Posts Drives: Cadilac ATS-V Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Mt. Prospect IL iTrader: (0)	I went with the Cayenne setup of 285/315.
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jfischer339 New Member 3 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 2009 1ER, 2013 335i 2021 X45e Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Dayton, OH iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 128i [0.00]	I went with the Avid GTS35A on rear and the geolander on the front. Avid were 183 each at tirerack and the geolandar were 280 on amazon. Ride is great. Picked up a small jack, patch repair and compressor to carry even though I have roadside with BMW and Insurance.. Rear: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes Front: https://www.amazon.com/GEOLANDAR-X-C...2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1
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slicky Second Lieutenant 122 Rep 208 Posts Drives: Cadilac ATS-V Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Mt. Prospect IL iTrader: (0)	I would not go mixing tires. They provide different traction characteristics and would result in unbalanced and potentially dangerous handling.
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