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      12-31-2022, 04:18 PM   #1
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Who else is watching it? I know I can't be the only one...
I used to watch it. I think I've seen most of them, fortunately not first-hand. Was close once...
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I used to watch it. I think I've seen most of them, fortunately not first-hand. Was close once...
I've been in a few of them.
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Try The Flight Channel on YouTube. Outstanding recreations of various flight disasters.
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I've been in a few of them.
Is an obese lady getting stuck in the lavatory considered an air disaster?
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Is an obese lady getting stuck in the lavatory considered an air disaster?
Most definitely. ESPECIALLY, if it's a #2 emergency
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Try The Flight Channel on YouTube. Outstanding recreations of various flight disasters.
I watch that one, along with Mentour Pilot. I also watch quite a bit of successful flights/landings; i want to make sure I balance out the failures with successes
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Most definitely. ESPECIALLY, if it's a #2 emergency
It happened to my son when he was a captain in the regionals. The cabin crew couldn't get the fat gal off the pot, so he had to get permission from company to land with a passenger out of position and without a seatbelt.
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It happened to my son when he was a captain in the regionals. The cabin crew couldn't get the fat gal off the pot, so he had to get permission from company to land with a passenger out of position and without a seatbelt.
As she was wedged in there, would she really need a seatbelt?
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As she was wedged in there, would she really need a seatbelt?
I think the ground crew had to disassemble part of the lav to get her out.

I sometimes wonder if folks have a clue as to the beating the aircraft take.


Then there's the mysterious cracks in the blue-lagoon holding tanks that occurred during the early months of the B-777 operations...
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I go to this site from time to time: https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/. I'm totally unknowledgeable when it comes to aircraft, but the author of the pieces on the site appears to go fairly deep in explaining what went wrong.

I think I came across the site while looking for information on the 1990 Avianca 052 crash on approach to JFK. This page describes what happened with that flight: https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/...2-c69145b326f2.
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I think I came across the site while looking for information on the 2018 Avianca 052 crash on approach to JFK. This page describes what happened with that flight: https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/...2-c69145b326f2.
Actually, it was 1990. In any case, we had a supervisor have someone following an Avianca flight visually and he said if he lands short to keep going. I'm pretty sure he unkeyed before saying that
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Actually, it was 1990.
Yes, there it is in the first sentence of the piece.
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Yes, there it is in the first sentence of the piece.
I missed that. I was continuing a post I started before dinner. Grilled a couple of filet's.
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Try The Flight Channel on YouTube. Outstanding recreations of various flight disasters.
There are two that stand out to me.

1). IIRC out on the east side of the world 1994 kids crash a plane. Co-pilot or pilots kids were sitting up front jerking the joystick or whatever it’s called and with enough force, took the plane out of autopilot and when they realized what was going on, it was too late.

2). Pilot was depressed, going through a divorce along with other issues and crashed (suicide mission).
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I watch the flight channel, some crazy ass accidents/intentional acts.
- Helios Airways Flight 522
- Tenetife 747 crash

Always creepy to hear the whoop whoop, stall, too low terrain, Bank angle alarms.
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Anything on that show I'll probably know well. I grew up with aviation as a child, my mom was a flight attendant for decades with TWA. By the time I was 18 I had filled up multiple passports with stamps from airports around the world. I flew with my mom all the time whenever I had time for many years, it was wonderful and I never knew how lucky I was until I got older.

I've researched countless aviation accidents, what has always fascinated me is how nearly all of them are caused by one small issue, then another, causing a chain reaction that leads to catastrophe. Most of the accidents never should have happened, and it's always struck me as some sort of horrible fate that leads to these accidents.

What caused my interest in these accidents was that my mom was supposed to be on TWA flight 800. That was her route for many years from New York to Paris due to her seniority with the company. She would fly the route a minimum of a few times every month. She knew every single TWA employee on that flight, and I knew most as well. The only reason she wasn't on that particular flight was because it was her birthday, July 17th. She wanted nothing more than to spend her birthday in Paris (it's her favorite place on earth), but she dropped the flight a couple days before because none of us were able to go along at the time and she didn't think it was right leaving us alone on her birthday. Ever since then I've wanted to learn all I could about these accidents.

I'll never forget the image on CNN and the water on fire as we were watching nightly programming and the alert came on concerning 800. Literally within minutes our phone started ringing off the hook, including my panicked grandmother who thought she had lost her daughter. Everyone knew she flew that flight, and it was her "baby" so to speak.

The relief we felt that night is only tempered by the families who received calls not from family/friends expressing joy their loved one wasn't on the flight, but rather by those families that received calls from the airline, or whoever it is to notify them their loved one was indeed on the flight. To have something nail that close to home, is something I'll never forget.

God bless the souls of all who have perished in these accidents, along with those they have left behind. Let all accidents leave clues and guidance to the rest of us so that the next one will never be the next one.
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After 20yrs working on the flight simulators and learning to fly Boeing and Airbus. I can say the training needs to include more intense situations. The first time in an A320 sim I flew up to 10k feet, right above the airport and turned off all the flight control switches. I only had standby rudder control and was able to steer with the throttles which also controlled pitch fairly well. I landed perfectly but the 2nd time I crashed.
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Im watching air disasters on youtube and on television, but only cointentionally.
But I enjoy some worried looks into the cabin when I fly from/to with a picture book of air disasters into my hands, ehehe
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Remember the Discovery Wings channel? That and Wings over Vietnam were great shows before the channel went woke. Scariest episode I saw on AD was the Alaska Air flight were a huge auger in the tail stripped out and the stabilizers were now flapping around. The plane kept going vertical, then would level out, then vertical..etc...poor fuckers..
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Remember the Discovery Wings channel? That and Wings over Vietnam were great shows before the channel went woke. Scariest episode I saw on AD was the Alaska Air flight were a huge auger in the tail stripped out and the stabilizers were now flapping around. The plane kept going vertical, then would level out, then vertical..etc...poor fuckers..
A very remarkable accident, caused by improper maintenance.
Had led to a worldwide rethinking of doing maintenance well and achieved and into appropriate time terms.
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Remember the Discovery Wings channel? That and Wings over Vietnam were great shows before the channel went woke. Scariest episode I saw on AD was the Alaska Air flight were a huge auger in the tail stripped out and the stabilizers were now flapping around. The plane kept going vertical, then would level out, then vertical..etc...poor fuckers..
That was my near AD. LA Center had already given us the information (the requisite plus he had flight control problems) and we were setting things up so he could have either one of the 6's or 7's, his choice. Before I got him ZLA said never mind... we all knew what that meant . My trainee thought I would let him work him, but there was no way I would let a rookie handle that situation!
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