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      11-24-2021, 03:52 PM   #573
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RBR want the rules changed just once more this season

Can you smell the desperation
I think this was mercedes making a joke about redbull wanting to load test even more if they passed the modified test. But lol, instead of trying to get faster redbull tries to get stuff banned.
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It was a rhetorical question but since you ask:

I think Max has a good point. GO 33!!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/co...eb2x&context=3
Jane . That's what we are talking about !
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Jane . That's what we are talking about !
And that was made by people speculating what is occurring, and it could very well be flexing in that manner. But since the wing passed the tests any flexing is within the regulated limits and thus all your points are moot.
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Two main reasons and and a few secondary ones unfortunately.
We are having at least 7 good reasons .The higher the number is the worst it is ...

If MAX wins the WDC , think we have to speak to ourselves !

It's useless to say that a grenade is made to pop...
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I keep seeing RB and others luring MB personal away...Ferrari too stupid to go fishing
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I keep seeing RB and others luring MB personal away...Ferrari too stupid to go fishing
Yeah I saw that! Aston is really trying to go faster lol.

Also maybe it is harder for ferrari to lure people away since most of the teams are in the UK and ferrari is in Italy. So they would have to convince the engineers to move to a different country and have to pay them a more vs. any other team.
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Also maybe it is harder for ferrari to lure people away since most of the teams are in the UK and ferrari is in Italy. So they would have to convince the engineers to move to a different country and have to pay them a more vs. any other team.
I rectum

Thinking I'd rather live further south in Italy
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Thinking I'd rather live further south in Italy
Yeah but then they would have to move their entire family, this means if their spouse has a job (if they have a spouse) they may need to find a new job, if they have children they will have to get them into different schools, then they have a language barrier to overcome as well. So alot of changes.


It would be nice if you were wealthy and didn't have to work but it is different if you still had to lead the same life style with all these changes.
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Yeah but then they would have to move their entire family, this means if their spouse has a job (if they have a spouse) they may need to find a new job, if they have children they will have to get them into different schools, then they have a language barrier to overcome as well. So alot of changes.


It would be nice if you were wealthy and didn't have to work but it is different if you still had to lead the same life style with all these changes.
Thinking Ferrari could afford to dish out higher wages to get some actual talent.

I'm married with no kids but do see your point.
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Thinking Ferrari could afford to dish out higher wages to get some actual talent.

I'm married with no kids but do see your point.
Yeah but with the budget cap it's harder. Then you'll be looking at axing 3 engineers to get 1 talented one. Then at what point will you not have enough engineers to get the small things done like designing fasteners, and at what point do you have enough talent to go fast? It's a tough balancing act.
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Yeah but with the budget cap it's harder. Then you'll be looking at axing 3 engineers to get 1 talented one. Then at what point will you not have enough engineers to get the small things done like designing fasteners, and at what point do you have enough talent to go fast? It's a tough balancing act.
Are engineers & human capitol subject to the budget cap? I thought it was just bits and pieces?
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Crazy top speed in Brazil, it's so obvious come on you must be kidding me, if you can't see that then I recommend supersavers mate
Check it out ...The video on this page => https://www.autoblog.nl/nieuws/het-i...d-vals-2951837
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Are engineers & human capitol subject to the budget cap? I thought it was just bits and pieces?
Unfortunately people count too, it's total operating budget which is why alot of teams had to let go of their engineers. There is an exception iirc for the top 3-5 personnel where their salary is uncapped.
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Without this ...MAX was 'NOW already the '2021 WDC !!!

Yes, if he only knew to not turn in and went a little wide…he’d already be the WDC.

You know, like Hamilton avoided Max in Brazil
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I keep seeing RB and others luring MB personal away...Ferrari too stupid to go fishing
They get the ones that are bad at cheating and get caught.
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You know, like Hamilton avoided Max in Brazil
But VER had every reason to believe HAM bailed upon disappearing from his mirrors. HAM barely clipped him and VER almost pulled it off. Plus HAM didn't even remotely attempt to hit the apex where VER thought he would be. Unfortunately he was wrong but we all make mistakes. Just glad I don't have to make split second decisions at that speed.

Reference Brazil, HAM could still see VER and had a much better opportunity to avoid a collision.
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They get the ones that are bad at cheating and get caught.
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Ouch
It legit was supposed to be a joke, but yah they weren’t great at hiding that jet mode where they.
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It legit was supposed to be a joke, but yah they weren’t great at hiding that jet mode where they.
I know, the frown was for Ferrari because truth hurts.
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I keep seeing RB and others luring MB personal away...Ferrari too stupid to go fishing
Wow, Aston plucked Dan Fallows from RBR (worked 12 years with Newey) and now Mercs #1. That car is going to be frictionless with full downforce on demand.

Good news is stroll will be driving, so that levels out any performance advantage.
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But VER had every reason to believe HAM bailed upon disappearing from his mirrors. HAM barely clipped him and VER almost pulled it off. Plus HAM didn't even remotely attempt to hit the apex where VER thought he would be. Unfortunately he was wrong but we all make mistakes. Just glad I don't have to make split second decisions at that speed.

Reference Brazil, HAM could still see VER and had a much better opportunity to avoid a collision.
But, but, but…if Max made a ‘smart’ move he would have went wide and avoided any contact. He was leading the WDC and would have been well ahead in the standings if he ended up finishing second instead of a DNF.

“Almost pulled it off”. Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Hamilton didn’t even remotely try to hit the apex but Max though he would in Brazil? Come on let’s be serious. Max went in hot, and missed the apex with elbows out, Hamilton was smart and went wide to avoid contact. Hamilton went in an missed the apex, Max turned in hoping Hamilton would back out….that split second, IMO stupid decision, may cost him the WDC.
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