[Mattl0806]

Hey Everyone,

Slowly brining my wife over from the dark side of Chrysler towards bmw. Hyrbid is the requirement now as she loves electric but has range anxiety as it’s our family trip car too.

She currently has a JGC hybrid and has discovered there are quite a few issues with their implementation and crappy cars in general, but she loves the look and will have a hard time ever leaving the brand.

Anyways onto the question - jeeps can go into a state called FORM - fuel oil refresh mode - which disables electric and requires you to burn gas and/or oil or even do an oil change I think…

Do the 50es require any such thing or have a similar state? Understanding that best practices may suggest burning a tank of gas every x months etc.. but does the car itself force anything?

Thanks!

[E91toG05]

The answer to question is essentially no. You can run the car on only electric only seemingly indefinitely. The car will not force you to run the internal combustion engine at any particular point, although the maintenance schedule does still require an oil change once per year or every 10,000 miles I believe. You should note that the 50e currently has significant reliability concerns, so you may want to hold off a bit while those are sorted.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by E91toG05

The answer to question is essentially no. You can run the car on only electric only seemingly indefinitely. The car will not force you to run the internal combustion engine at any particular point, although the maintenance schedule does still require an oil change once per year or every 10,000 miles I believe. You should note that the 50e currently has significant reliability concerns, so you may want to hold off a bit while those are sorted.

Thank you. This wouldn’t be for a little bit. I’m just seizing the opportunity now to show how bmw is better . I’d assume all would be buttoned up by her timeline.

[E91toG05]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Thank you. This wouldn’t be for a little bit. I’m just seizing the opportunity now to show how bmw is better . I’d assume all would be buttoned up by her timeline.

To say that a BMW is better than Chrysler is a gross understatement.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by E91toG05

To say that a BMW is better than Chrysler is a gross understatement.

Trust me I know first hand driving both frequently. I despise the Chrysler product and their whole approach to service and customer experience, just horrendous. Would be the 4th happiest day of my life if she switches over lol!!

[mscot]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Would be the 4th happiest day of my life if she switches over lol!!

Did you sell a boat recently?

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by mscot

Did you sell a boat recently?

Lol.
1. Married
2. Kids
3. Sold boat
4. Bmw

I have 6k miles on my 2 month old 50e. Zero issues. Fyi

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

Lol.
1. Married
2. Kids
3. Sold boat
4. Bmw

I have 6k miles on my 2 month old 50e. Zero issues. Fyi

Haha - 2 kids. Was counting each separately. So wife switching over to bmw is a solid #4. No boat yet.

[eluded]

You can use sport mode which is ICE all the time (plus the electric motor) and amazing mileage. I get 15 in town and maybe low 20's on the high way. 0-60 in 3.9 seconds according to C&D, 12.5 quarter, which is not bad for a 5400# sled.

[nZtiZia]

you can also configure Sport Individual engine setting to Comfort to utilize the electric motor similar to Hybrid

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

you can also configure Sport Individual engine setting to Comfort to utilize the electric motor similar to Hybrid

Thanks Everyone for the responses.
My wife’s desire is to burn as little gas possible and not be forced into it if she goes 3months without using the ICE. The jeep will force this. It’s good to know that bmw does not. Bonus points for bmw and closer to getting my wish of her conversion

[dwwStL]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

you can also configure Sport Individual engine setting to Comfort to utilize the electric motor similar to Hybrid

Which is exactly what I’ve done.

[jad03060]

FWIW, the i3 REx would turn its ICE on after a preset amount of time (I think it was about 2-months) if it wasn't activated within that time in normal operation, but the design on the PHEV is much newer. Apparently, it doesn't need that to happen and still be reliable. The i3 REx is a serial hybrid (the engine drives a generator and has no connection to the drivetrain) whereas the X5 PHEV is a parallel hybrid design (where both the EV and ICE can drive the vehicle).

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by eluded

You can use sport mode which is ICE all the time (plus the electric motor) and amazing mileage. I get 15 in town and maybe low 20's on the high way. 0-60 in 3.9 seconds according to C&D, 12.5 quarter, which is not bad for a 5400# sled.

I know now why your oil reach op temp in 5 minutes. 😂

I typically get 20mpg sport mode and 26mpg in highway. And this is 45e, should be 10% less efficient than 50e.

[FastMarkA]

The BMW's hybrid powertrain is notably superior to the Jeep's, and it's not just obvious to the mechanically-inclined.

The engagement of the ICE is far smoother that any passenger should easily be able to detect the difference when compared.

About the only time the BMW is rigid on running the ICE is if you to demand more power from the electric motor than it can offer, and the system kicks on the ICE. If the engine is cold, it will keep the ICE running for a period of time (short usually), presumably so oils can come up to temperature.

But I've gone a few months using electric only on the 50e. In fact, from April > November, I didn't visit a gas station once, and I was happy about it.

[TexAg91]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Thanks Everyone for the responses.
My wife’s desire is to burn as little gas possible and not be forced into it if she goes 3months without using the ICE. The jeep will force this. It’s good to know that bmw does not. Bonus points for bmw and closer to getting my wish of her conversion

I've had zero issues with my 50e also thus far, excellent initial new car quality -- much better than the 2020 Mercedes GLE 350 I previously owned.

My wifes drives the 50e to take our youngest to school and to shop locally -- she never uses gas.

If you do get one, you will need to invest in a Level 2 charger to get the full benefit. A 110 outlet will take 24 hrs to recharge a depleted battery...a level 2 takes 3 hours.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by FastMarkA

The BMW's hybrid powertrain is notably superior to the Jeep's, and it's not just obvious to the mechanically-inclined.

The engagement of the ICE is far smoother that any passenger should easily be able to detect the difference when compared.

About the only time the BMW is rigid on running the ICE is if you to demand more power from the electric motor than it can offer, and the system kicks on the ICE. If the engine is cold, it will keep the ICE running for a period of time (short usually), presumably so oils can come up to temperature.

But I've gone a few months using electric only on the 50e. In fact, from April > November, I didn't visit a gas station once, and I was happy about it.

Exactly what I’d want to hear. Thank you!

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by TexAg91

I've had zero issues with my 50e also thus far, excellent initial new car quality — much better than the 2020 Mercedes GLE 350 I previously owned.

My wifes drives the 50e to take our youngest to school and to shop locally — she never uses gas.

If you do get one, you will need to invest in a Level 2 charger to get the full benefit. A 110 outlet will take 24 hrs to recharge a depleted battery...a level 2 takes 3 hours.

Yea the jeep takes 14 hours from completely dead which is manageable right now but it’s a smaller battery only 27 mile range so extrapolating I can see the need for level 2 with the 50e otherwise you’re not taking advantage of those extra miles!

[mobsync]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

Lol.
1. Married
2. Kids
3. Sold boat
4. Bmw

I am sorry that your team has never won a national championship. As an Ole Miss fan, I know how you feel.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by mobsync

I am sorry that your team has never won a national championship. As an Ole Miss fan, I know how you feel.

Haha or I just like to drive bmws more than the championships. Getting my wife to convert would mean the weeeknds and road trips are now upgraded!