[AidenL]

Hi all,

I have an order with my dealer since September. It was supposed to have been produced in January, with delivery in March.

I ordered being fully aware of the AC cooling valve problems, software and drivetrain issues and I had hoped they would have all been resolved by the time my car was delivered

This Tuesday, I had a call from my dealer confirming my car wouldn’t be produced until week 12 in March with delivery end May.

We are all now aware of the production halt until week 10. What we don’t know is why this is - is it to allow a fix to be rolled out, or is it just a standard supply chain shortage, which may mean that the issues will still be present after production recommences.

In view of the above, knowing what has occurred to date, would you proceed with an order for an X5 50e right now?

[RNorb]

If you won't get your car until the end of May, I would wait for the 2025 model which will probably start production in September.

[AidenL]

Originally Posted by RNorb

If you won't get your car until the end of May, I would wait for the 2025 model which will probably start production in September.

Our registration plates are January (241) and July (242) - I’d be trying to line up with 242 on a late May delivery, but the dealer won’t want to hold my car for a month for registration.

I’m really tending towards cancelling and ordering later in the year for January 2025. Hopefully all the current problems would be resolved by then.

[BlkGS]

I'd move ahead with it. They're not gonna have anything new fixed for next year that isn't fixed for restart, but they might delete some more features and will DEFINITELY be charging more.

Or maybe switch to a 40i?

[cobramite]

Spend a little more and get the M60i. You will not be disappointed.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by RNorb

If you won't get your car until the end of May, I would wait for the 2025 model which will probably start production in September.

SOP should be August.

OP - I would go ahead with the order if I was in your shoes. You were comfortable enough with the situation to order it, this delay can only make things better.

[Jarmadon]

Keeping my order as of now and just hoping things work out. Wife wants a PHEV or EV SUV and this is still the best option IMO.

[johnonroad]

I'm keeping my order for now. Not clear if these CEL errors are a bad batch or something else. If something else, hope it will be resolved as I'm now week 10. Hoping we hear from some more people with recent deliveries saying their 50e have been flawless!

[hiluca]

just got word from my SA and got the VIN number. my 50e is in production.
Delivery should be in march.

so i'm not affected by the stop in production with the 50e ?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by johnonroad

I'm keeping my order for now. Not clear if these CEL errors are a bad batch or something else. If something else, hope it will be resolved as I'm now week 10. Hoping we hear from some more people with recent deliveries saying their 50e have been flawless!

It definitely appears to be something else. When it first started over the summer we thought it was a bad batch but the problems continued. The posts with problems seem to lull with the Oct-Nov builds but that ended in December with folks in that build range reporting problems.

From the info I have been gathering the last couple of days, there is no halt for the 50e production but rather a greatly reduced output. What is odd is that it seems like they are pushing back almost all Priority 1 (customer sold units) until late Feb/March (or not scheduled at all) and building Priority 3 (dealer stock) and Individual orders. This is just based on the info I have now but it is looking fairly solid.

This combined with no V8 allocations makes me wonder what is happening down in Spartanburg. Not sure if there are problems, refurbishing, etc. but something sure is different.

[johnonroad]

Originally Posted by hiluca

just got word from my SA and got the VIN number. my 50e is in production.
Delivery should be in march.

so i'm not affected by the stop in production with the 50e ?

Congrats! I guess the question is when did you place your order and was your expected build week 1st week of Jan?

[WagonFan]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

This combined with no V8 allocations makes me wonder what is happening down in Spartanburg. Not sure if there are problems, refurbishing, etc. but something sure is different.

Could the remodeling of the factory to handle the heavier PHEV and EV have influence?

[aussieintexas]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

It definitely appears to be something else. When it first started over the summer we thought it was a bad batch but the problems continued. The posts with problems seem to lull with the Oct-Nov builds but that ended in December with folks in that build range reporting problems.

From the info I have been gathering the last couple of days, there is no halt for the 50e production but rather a greatly reduced output. What is odd is that it seems like they are pushing back almost all Priority 1 (customer sold units) until late Feb/March (or not scheduled at all) and building Priority 3 (dealer stock) and Individual orders. This is just based on the info I have now but it is looking fairly solid.

This combined with no V8 allocations makes me wonder what is happening down in Spartanburg. Not sure if there are problems, refurbishing, etc. but something sure is different.

I placed an order for an M60 with my sales manager at the dealer a couple of weeks ago and he contacted me earlier this week to tell me he has an allocation for me and to get my build to him. He told me it was for a Feb delivery but I’ll find out Monday if I have a production number and build week. He is a a good friend so he will tell it to me straight up.

[WagonFan]

For the OP I would keep it as well since you had made the decision in the first place. However I don’t know how the buying is on your side.
For many In the US, they make a down payment and if the car doesn’t meet expectations at delivery you still can walk away.

Yes, there seem to be a unusual occurrence of issues. To me the problem itself is not the biggest issue. The annoying part from most of the stories is how long it takes to resolve. Shipping spare parts from Germany shouldn’t be an issue. To my knowledge they have at least 3 direct freight charter flights per week from Germany to GSP (Greenville/Spartanburg). It might be shortage of the parts itself.
And I feel for those who got stuck for an extended time. I would not be happy either and it potentially could change my mind.

On the other side there are those with no big issues (so far) and you don’t hear from them.

I have my 50e since 4 months and 8500 miles. It hasn’t seen the shop yet. I really enjoy the ride and the benefits of the PHEV.

I have to assume that there are many more in a similar situation.

Different model?
Just read what people are thinking about the ASS of the other models. No topic for the 50e.
At the end everyone has different priorities and opinions.

Good luck with your decision either way.

[AidenL]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

I'd move ahead with it. They're not gonna have anything new fixed for next year that isn't fixed for restart, but they might delete some more features and will DEFINITELY be charging more.

Or maybe switch to a 40i?

Originally Posted by cobramite

Spend a little more and get the M60i. You will not be disappointed.

40i and M60i are incredibly expensive here in Ireland due to our emissions based registration tax, as is diesel. Financially only the 50e makes sense.

[AidenL]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

SOP should be August.

OP - I would go ahead with the order if I was in your shoes. You were comfortable enough with the situation to order it, this delay can only make things better.

I hope the delay IS to resolve the issues though, and not just a standard supply chain issue.

It’s odd as TurtleBoy said, that Priority 3 and Individual orders are proceeding, albeit slowly.

[AidenL]

Originally Posted by Jarmadon

Keeping my order as of now and just hoping things work out. Wife wants a PHEV or EV SUV and this is still the best option IMO.

I agree, only other I’d consider is a Cayenne and it’s 20k more expensive, I don’t think it’s worth the bump to me.

Originally Posted by johnonroad

I'm keeping my order for now. Not clear if these CEL errors are a bad batch or something else. If something else, hope it will be resolved as I'm now week 10. Hoping we hear from some more people with recent deliveries saying their 50e have been flawless!

Thst would be the best outcome for us all.

[AidenL]

Originally Posted by hiluca

just got word from my SA and got the VIN number. my 50e is in production.
Delivery should be in march.

so i'm not affected by the stop in production with the 50e ?

Is it an Individual order?

[AidenL]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

It definitely appears to be something else. When it first started over the summer we thought it was a bad batch but the problems continued. The posts with problems seem to lull with the Oct-Nov builds but that ended in December with folks in that build range reporting problems.

From the info I have been gathering the last couple of days, there is no halt for the 50e production but rather a greatly reduced output. What is odd is that it seems like they are pushing back almost all Priority 1 (customer sold units) until late Feb/March (or not scheduled at all) and building Priority 3 (dealer stock) and Individual orders. This is just based on the info I have now but it is looking fairly solid.

This combined with no V8 allocations makes me wonder what is happening down in Spartanburg. Not sure if there are problems, refurbishing, etc. but something sure is different.

That is good information, but puzzling and leaves us all more confused. Noone seems to really know what’s hapoening, BMW are good at keeping info under wraps.

Dealers really know less than us.

[AidenL]

Originally Posted by aussieintexas

I placed an order for an M60 with my sales manager at the dealer a couple of weeks ago and he contacted me earlier this week to tell me he has an allocation for me and to get my build to him. He told me it was for a Feb delivery but I’ll find out Monday if I have a production number and build week. He is a a good friend so he will tell it to me straight up.

It will be interesting to hear what info he has for you.

[AidenL]

Originally Posted by WagonFan

For the OP I would keep it as well since you had made the decision in the first place. However I don’t know how the buying is on your side.
For many In the US, they make a down payment and if the car doesn’t meet expectations at delivery you still can walk away.

Yes, there seem to be a unusual occurrence of issues. To me the problem itself is not the biggest issue. The annoying part from most of the stories is how long it takes to resolve. Shipping spare parts from Germany shouldn’t be an issue. To my knowledge they have at least 3 direct freight charter flights per week from Germany to GSP (Greenville/Spartanburg). It might be shortage of the parts itself.
And I feel for those who got stuck for an extended time. I would not be happy either and it potentially could change my mind.

On the other side there are those with no big issues (so far) and you don’t hear from them.

I have my 50e since 4 months and 8500 miles. It hasn’t seen the shop yet. I really enjoy the ride and the benefits of the PHEV.

I have to assume that there are many more in a similar situation.

Different model?
Just read what people are thinking about the ASS of the other models. No topic for the 50e.
At the end everyone has different priorities and opinions.

Good luck with your decision either way.

I agree, there aren’t many viable alternatives.

I also know the faults are amplified here. I’m concerned do to my distance from our nearest dealer. I work away from home all week, the X5 will be my wife’s car, and she works too, so return dealer trips would have to be at the only spare time we have at the weekends, so that would be awkward.

I’d just be happy if the X5 was reliable.

I’m sitting in my current 530e XDrive LCI as I type this, it turned 3 years yesterday, and didn’t have one glitch during that time, in all fairness. That’s the BMW standard I’m hoping for.

[45e X5]

Originally Posted by AidenL

I agree, there aren’t many viable alternatives.

I also know the faults are amplified here. I’m concerned do to my distance from our nearest dealer. I work away from home all week, the X5 will be my wife’s car, and she works too, so return dealer trips would have to be at the only spare time we have at the weekends, so that would be awkward.

I’d just be happy if the X5 was reliable.

I’m sitting in my current 530e XDrive LCI as I type this, it turned 3 years yesterday, and didn’t have one glitch during that time, in all fairness. That’s the BMW standard I’m hoping for.

I would think that a lot of the reason for the delay is if such a large number of cars that were built got Damaged and now have to be completely rebuilt from scratch. I’m not sure how many were damaged though. Could be supply chain issues also. I’m in the exact same position thought delivery would be March. Now it’s showing end of May. If it’s delivered end of May into June. Il wait for 242 Reg