[kevdude]

Originally Posted by sf2360

i'm putting these.

Within the pic you posted it says B Bently, does this mean its OEM for Bentley's? Does it matter? I'm looking at the same tires but not sure what that means. Guess I could call Tirerack lol.

[sf2360]

Originally Posted by kevdude

Within the pic you posted it says B Bently, does this mean its OEM for Bentley's? Does it matter? I'm looking at the same tires but not sure what that means. Guess I could call Tirerack lol.

Doesn't matter.

[kevdude]

Originally Posted by sf2360

Doesn't matter.

I just spoke to a customer service rep at TireRack and they said that they can only sell these tires to Bently dealerships at this time so they should not have even shown up as a current option.

[AB17]

Can anyone share their experience on ride comfort with 21'' wheels without Air Suspension?

[alpinekarthik]

I got 21 now I wish I got 20. Too little options for A/S. A/S RFT non existent.

[alpinekarthik]

Originally Posted by AB17

Can anyone share their experience on ride comfort with 21'' wheels without Air Suspension?

Riding on 21" 744 with Pirelli P Zero RFT Max Performance summer tires. No air suspension. The ride quality is amazing. Like hot knife through butter.

[Rkk19]

22's love them!
Certainly gives it a more aggressive stance draws a lot of looks as well.
742M all the way!

[Merlin111967]

I've got 22" with air suspension and done 10,000 miles so far and have issues with the ride. I do 40,000 miles a year and have it in comfort setting on motorways and one of the sports modes on the twists and love it :-)

[RVAGuy]

Originally Posted by ncm5guy

Anyone get 22's and now wish they had 21's?

I’ve gone back and forth on 21” vs 22” since placing my order 12/19. Like the look and wheel options of 22” but convenience and additional truck space with no spare.

[VTENGR]

Originally Posted by Fdmcg

I’ve gone back and forth on 21” vs 22” since placing my order 12/19. Like the look and wheel options of 22” but convenience and additional truck space with no spare.

Could always buy the mobility kit for your 22" scenario and ditch the spare. That's what ppl do when they're tired of the run flats and swap them out with non-run flats.

[RVAGuy]

Originally Posted by VTENGR

Could always buy the mobility kit for your 22" scenario and ditch the spare. That's what ppl do when they're tired of the run flats and swap them out with non-run flats.

Perhaps we’re getting off topic (21” vs 22”) but your suggestion raised a question in my mind if you can order 22” and opt for no-spare. Per the customizer you can’t. So if I order 22” and “ditch the spare” don’t I still lose the cargo space and now have no spare?
It’s my opinion the choice is safety/convenience vs appearance. I like the look of the 22” but not incrementally more than the 21” to give up the cargo space and safety of run flats.

[VTENGR]

Originally Posted by Fdmcg

Perhaps we're getting off topic (21" vs 22") but your suggestion raised a question in my mind if you can order 22" and opt for no-spare. Per the customizer you can't. So if I order 22" and "ditch the spare" don't I still lose the cargo space and now have no spare?
It's my opinion the choice is safety/convenience vs appearance. I like the look of the 22" but not incrementally more than the 21" to give up the cargo space and safety of run flats.

The cargo space you're talking about is the space occupied by the spare tire. There's no difference if you order 21 vs 22. The only thing that changes is when you lift the cover that space is occupied by the spare. I would suggest ordering the 22s and put the spare tire on eBay or in storage. I don't think there's a physical difference in the area under the cover whether or not you opt for the spare tire kit (mandatory for 22s, optional for all other sizes).

The mobility kit is what safeguards against a flat in this case. It's essentially a air pump with a sealing agent to fill the hole in your tire.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by Fdmcg

Perhaps we’re getting off topic (21” vs 22”) but your suggestion raised a question in my mind if you can order 22” and opt for no-spare. Per the customizer you can’t. So if I order 22” and “ditch the spare” don’t I still lose the cargo space and now have no spare?
It’s my opinion the choice is safety/convenience vs appearance. I like the look of the 22” but not incrementally more than the 21” to give up the cargo space and safety of run flats.

The cavity for the spare is there regardless of whether there is a spare in it or not. Buy the spare at order, it's a great deal, don't even think of not buying it. Then feel free to leave it in the garage and not carry it and use the cavity for storage. Sell the spare to an unlucky bastard that either forgot to order car with spare or resides in Canada (where we're not allowed to have spares by BMW Canada).

[RVAGuy]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

The cavity for the spare is there regardless of whether there is a spare in it or not. Buy the spare at order, it's a great deal, don't even think of not buying it. Then feel free to leave it in the garage and not carry it and use the cavity for storage. Sell the spare to an unlucky bastard that either forgot to order car with spare or resides in Canada (where we're not allowed to have spares by BMW Canada).

Per my BMW sales rep (and if you don’t believe your sales rep, who can you believe) the spare tire raises the cargo floor several inches to accommodate the spare. Even with the tire removed the floor height remains the same.
If so and with the tire removed, the cargo space may be the same but if under the floor it’s lost to me.
If not, ordering 22” and ditching the spare solves cargo space concern but leaves me totally dependent on mobility kit. It better work.
BTW, this strikes me as a lot of brain power being expended for a 1” wheel difference. I have no idea the wheel size on any of my previous cars.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by Fdmcg

Per my BMW sales rep (and if you don’t believe your sales rep, who can you believe) the spare tire raises the cargo floor several inches to accommodate the spare. Even with the tire removed the floor height remains the same.
If so and with the tire removed, the cargo space may be the same but if under the floor it’s lost to me.
If not, ordering 22” and ditching the spare solves cargo space concern but leaves me totally dependent on mobility kit. It better work.
BTW, this strikes me as a lot of brain power being expended for a 1” wheel difference. I have no idea the wheel size on any of my previous cars.

The spare tire does not raise the floor. It is rather common for various BMW representatives and BMW themselves to be entirely full of caca.

[Auricom]

Originally Posted by Fdmcg

Per my BMW sales rep (and if you don't believe your sales rep, who can you believe) the spare tire raises the cargo floor several inches to accommodate the spare. Even with the tire removed the floor height remains the same.

As LexxM3 mentioned the spare tire does not raise the cargo floor and I can confirm as my X5 is optioned with space saver spare.

Perhaps he's confusing his X's as the X3 is the only model where the cargo floor is raised when optioned with a spare.

[RVAGuy]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

The spare tire does not raise the floor. It is rather common for various BMW representatives and BMW themselves to be entirely full of caca.

If the cargo floor height (and storage) is the same regardless of the wheel size and with or w/o a spare, do people then remove the spare to save weight? I don’t consider space under the floor to be useable.
I don’t fault BMW personnel. I’m only focused on one trim line on one vehicle and I find it difficult. I find this site is a good source of reliable information.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by Fdmcg

If the cargo floor height (and storage) is the same regardless of the wheel size and with or w/o a spare, do people then remove the spare to save weight? I don't consider space under the floor to be useable.
I don't fault BMW personnel. I'm only focused on one trim line on one vehicle and I find it difficult. I find this site is a good source of reliable information.

x40i is spec'd as almost exactly 50/50 weight distribution, but now that you mention it, I don't think we know whether that's with spare or without :-). Sure, you can remove spare to save weight, but if we're discussing weight savings at that level, this either isn't the right car or we need a real G05 X5 track prep discussion.

I agree the space below isn't super useful. Seems like a great place for a spare tire :-).

[Auricom]

Originally Posted by Fdmcg

If the cargo floor height (and storage) is the same regardless of the wheel size and with or w/o a spare, do people then remove the spare to save weight? I don't consider space under the floor to be useable.
I don't fault BMW personnel. I'm only focused on one trim line on one vehicle and I find it difficult. I find this site is a good source of reliable information.

In my F15, I would keep work laptop backup under the load floor if I'm in the city and don't want to lug it around or shopping/holiday shopping items that I want to keep extra hidden in the vehicle while it's parked. It's pretty useful, sizable when there's no spare.

[RVAGuy]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

The cavity for the spare is there regardless of whether there is a spare in it or not. Buy the spare at order, it's a great deal, don't even think of not buying it. Then feel free to leave it in the garage and not carry it and use the cavity for storage. Sell the spare to an unlucky bastard that either forgot to order car with spare or resides in Canada (where we're not allowed to have spares by BMW Canada).

LexxM3, are you suggesting on a X5/M50i order with 21” rf, to select the $150 space-saver spare option? Price is cheap, it does provide additional “insurance” in case of blowout, doesn’t reduce useable space and includes related tools.

[RVAGuy]

Originally Posted by Auricom

In my F15, I would keep work laptop backup under the load floor if I'm in the city and don't want to lug it around or shopping/holiday shopping items that I want to keep extra hidden in the vehicle while it's parked. It's pretty useful, sizable when there's no spare.

On second thought I have stored detail spray and MF towels there in the past and could add golf balls and other items I don’t need to access frequently. Thanks for the suggestion.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by Fdmcg

LexxM3, are you suggesting on a X5/M50i order with 21” rf, to select the $150 space-saver spare option? Price is cheap, it does provide additional “insurance” in case of blowout, doesn’t reduce useable space and includes related tools.

Was I too subtle? Sorry :-)